Marlon Wayans & Lord Jamar beef over Omar Epps' Skirt! LOL

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Hoe ass Nikka, the only reason I brought up those other points is because Y'ALL are putting "the effeminization of the Blake male" on the same level as REAL problems in the black community.

I work with youth and trust me an actor with eccentric fashion choices is NOT on the list of immediate things that should be addressed in our community breh.

If anything the teenage students I work with have an issue with over compensating their masculinity, it's very misguided because they constantly feel the need to prove how manly they are very few of them are comfortable enough in their own skin to even think for themselves .

And it's many systematic issues that have lead to our youth being this way.

But Omar Epps wearing a skirt is NOT one of the epidemics I see effecting the youth bruh,
Once again you're doing the same shyt. Your comments have little to nothing to do with me being wrong and EVERYTHING TO do with deflection on some "hey guys dont worry about this bullshyt they're pushing,hey look over here at this other bullshyt they've successfully done to you. You saying we have other or bigger problems doesnt negate anything. So what's your real point. Like gravity and others have said,make another thread on the REAL PROBLEMS. But naw you wanna try and extinguish the fired up real nikkas who are trying to expose this nonsense. And anyone with brains,knows why. You're a faq or an agent for that bullshyt.
 

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No, that is not what I was saying :comeon: my point was that we've had, and continue to have REAL shyt/PERSECUTION to us and dumb fukks like you only want to mobilize/find concern with shyt that amounts to nothing. Omar Epps could step out in a bra and panties-- our brothers are still going to be hunted down and locked up. On the flip side, Omar Epps could step out in a 3-piece suit or what have you and guess what???-- Our brothers are STILL going to be hunted down and locked up.

This focus on fashion, who so & so loves, etc means nothing in the grand scheme of what we're facing. Idk who the fukk "they" is, but "they" are not "pushing" shyt on any us. Ya'll CHOOSE to seek this shyt out, just like ya'll CHOOSE to get mad about it and take it up as an actual cause to fight. I can't make this shyt any simpler: You, me, our young boys that are coming up ALL have a 1/3 chance of going prison in our lifetime. These are hard numbers (link) Now I ask you, what are the stats for fashion decisions turning black men gay? Marinate on that and get back at me when you've figured this shyt out.
Clowns like you are the worst. You don't give a fukk about the racist justice system the prison industrial complex and how it's effecting the black community. Out of all of ghe threads that you have started you haven't started one thread discussing those specific issues. You have started a few on gay rights though, and that gives us some perspective on your agenda in this thread. You're only using the issues concerning racism in the justice system to deflect from the current issue in which we are discussing. If you don't think that there is a gay agenda being pushed or that black men are being effeminized in this society then make that your argument. Drop that "there are more important things to address" bullshyt though because it's bytchmade, anti-intellectual, and cowardly. I'll tell you like I told the other clown, if you don't think that this is a discussion worth having ten get the fukk out.
 

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Clowns like you are the worst. You don't give a fukk about the racist justice system the prison industrial complex and how it's effecting the black community. Out of all of ghe threads that you have started you haven't started one thread discussing those specific issues. You have started a few on gay rights though, and that gives us some perspective on your agenda in this thread. You're only using the issues concerning racism in the justice system to deflect from the current issue in which we are discussing. If you don't think that there is a gay agenda being pushed or that black men are being effeminized in this society then make that your argument. Drop that "there are more important things to address" bullshyt though because it's bytchmade, anti-intellectual, and cowardly. I'll tell you like I told the other clown, if you don't think that this is a discussion worth having ten get the fukk out.

:pachaha: word?

I ain't really up for debating shyt :yeshrug: but for all this pent up anger and frustration with the prison industrial complex/war on drugs its pretty clear alot of us want action to be taken... *WE* the black men, women and others that actually CARE enough to get incensed by the current state of affairs have to be the ones to bring this to the public forum. nikkas bytch about hispanics and immigration (and granted, their growing population is a huge part of their friend power) but let's not forget all the damn protests, organizing, etc they've done over the past few yrs... remember 06? :wtf: they went ham. as it stands right now, even black people ain't concerned, so I guess is kinda unfair to expect it from Obama :ehh: i'm starting to seriously consider how i can play a role in bringing it to the national spotlight. cuz I'll be damned if I continue to just sit back and "talk" about what needs to be. fight with me brehs :to:


like somebody else said, they're talkin about the fact you sound so subservient to bullshyt so long as its the law. Jim crow was law, slavery was lawful, that don't make em right. weed ain't been illegal for a century whereas people been smokin it since... forever. blacks don't smoke weed at any higher rate than whites and yet we're incarcerated at disturbin rates. and for what??? what crime is truly committed by smokin weed??? my bad its just the law :shaq2:





:what: so the border is as dangerous as it is because???

Damn, I'm surprised this thread isn't doing numbers. nikkas are going HAM out here in Dallas :damn: I never really listened to duke like that but I hate this fukking prison industrial complex we live in so it's always good to see a brother coming home.

this. back then. today it's just righteous moralist support and a easy way to lock nikkas up

best thing he could do is go after the justice system/war on drugs. i'm bankin on it :lawd:

Who the fukk are you talking like you actually know me? :mjlol: :camby:
 
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Fashion is arbitrary, So is gender assignment to material objects . For example pink was once a dominate color for little boys and blue for little girls, even though it's the reverse now by society at large I don't think little boys acted any more feminine then when pink was designated to them by society (for those that understand character development). Another example is thongs were once a male garment, now how many men wear them now?...more importantly has the perception of masculinity suffered since? No, which is odd because thongs were specifically worn by warriors. This tells me that we define what is masculine and what is not. If generations flip that definition, it only takes away from ur masculinity if you have a shallow perception of what a man is. You call it a skirt, some say kilt, or Hibab, or just a garment that lets a nikka nuts hang free while covering his junk. Ask your self what the hell that does this has to do with being a man?

The same dudes on the block that would clown a dude for wearing a Kilt/skirt / hibab / Shuka (which was worn by most if you alls male ancestors) are the same dudes that ARE,look up to, and or associate with dead beat fathers, and dope boys. and listen to rappers who perpetuate the REAL stereotype that the world sees black men through.

Yall are throwing shade at a hard working family man for having different fashion taste then you. Yet support lame rappers who do nothing but spit lies and poison these young kids in the community head with foolishness

Omar Epps or any other random dudes fashion choices are no business of mine.
 

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Clowns like you are the worst. You don't give a fukk about the racist justice system the prison industrial complex and how it's effecting the black community. Out of all of ghe threads that you have started you haven't started one thread discussing those specific issues. You have started a few on gay rights though, and that gives us some perspective on your agenda in this thread. You're only using the issues concerning racism in the justice system to deflect from the current issue in which we are discussing. If you don't think that there is a gay agenda being pushed or that black men are being effeminized in this society then make that your argument. Drop that "there are more important things to address" bullshyt though because it's bytchmade, anti-intellectual, and cowardly. I'll tell you like I told the other clown, if you don't think that this is a discussion worth having ten get the fukk out.

He probably doesn't feel the need to discuss black issues because the rest of you are doing fine on that front.
 

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Mos says this is a wrap from Ghana

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if you don't think that the effeminization of black males is a "real problem" then remove your fakkit ass from the discussion and let people who do feel it's a real problem discuss it in peace.

Then stop addressing it thet. Nobody forced you to participate in this discussion.

This is clearly some shyt that you've pulled from your ass. Hypermasculinity is clearly not the problem with today's young black men. These young cats don't even know what being a man is all about and that's courtesy of the powers that be. These kids aren't trying to prove how "manly" they are wearing skinny jeans, leggings, scarfs, faux-hawks ect. They're proving how effeminate our society is making them. You're full of shyt.

It's not just about Omar Epps. It's about there being a clear obvious agenda to effeminize black men. This Omar Epps stunt is just another example of that. You wan to talk about "systematic issues" while ignoring the obvious propaganda being pushed on our community via the media as if that isn't a systematic issue. The media is definitely part of the system and it has always been used to perpetuate racial agendas. You claIm to work with kids then how the fukk can you not see that young black males are becoming more and more effeminate while young black girls are becoming more masculine? You can either agree or disagree with that fact, but you can't ignore or dismiss it
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This is a perfect example of someone with a shallow definition of "toughness" are "softness" is.

I know 16 year olds that rock skinny jeans, leggings, scarfs and faux-hawks that will rob you if they catch you slipping on their block. I don't think that makes them any more manly. But I just want to illustrate how flawed your logic is judging these young cats as "soft" or "effeminate" by their attire.

You clearly have shallow definition of things in life breh.
 

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This is part of what Mos had to say about it

“Where’s your skirt from?” was perhaps not the most appropriate way of asking Yasiin Bey, the artist formerly known as Mos Def, about his attire on our first encounter.

But he was humble in his reply: “It’s a wrap from Ghana.”

The New York hip-hop star and Hollywood actor has made Cape Town his home since last May. The 40-year-old star says the wrap is “what I’m comfortable in at home”. He says of his new home in Cape Town:

“I’m not here for middle class comfort.” “Last year May, I came [to Cape Town] and I said I’m not leaving. I’m staying. It’s a beautiful place. It has the ocean, mountain, botanical gardens and beautiful people,”

says Bey.
 

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:pachaha: word?









Who the fukk are you talking like you actually know me? :mjlol: :camby:
:heh: At you dodging the point of my post thinking you "got me". You mentioning your dislike for the prison industrial complex doesn't equate to "giving a fukk". I'll reiterate my point to you just be clear. That "there are more
Important issues to discuss so y'all shouldn't be discussing this" bullshyt that you're kicking in this thread is completely transparent. You aren't fooling anyone with that dumb shyt. Your only aim here is to derail and deflect from people acknowledging the "gay agenda" because you support it. You're just too cowardly to come on out and admit that. To prove that the "there are more important issues to discuss" nonsense that you're on is BS:

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/has-...n-having-issues-with-firefox-crashing.146220/
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/some...castic-suggestion-brehs-trend-started.146849/
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/has-...n-having-issues-with-firefox-crashing.146220/

There are certainly more important issues to discuss than the trivial bullshyt that you're talking about in those threads. Stop being a coward and just come and defend the gay agenda and how black males are being effeminized in this society. The weak simpleminded "uh uh there are more important things to discuss....uh uh why do you care what the next man wears.....what about black men going to jail?" shyt isn't going to get it.
 

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This is a perfect example of someone with a shallow definition of "toughness" are "softness" is.

I know 16 year olds that rock skinny jeans, leggings, scarfs and faux-hawks that will rob you if they catch you slipping on their block. I don't think that makes them any more manly. But I just want to illustrate how flawed your logic is judging these young cats as "soft" or "effeminate" by their attire.

You clearly have shallow definition of things in life breh.
No this just shows how stupid you are. Robbing someone doesn't mean that you aren't "soft" or "effeminate". Robbing someone definitely isn't "manly", it's the personification of bytchassness. It's a cowardly act. You're a clown and you'd be better off just listening.
 

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whats understood dont gotta be explained...only on the internet are there arguments about this...the same dudes defending Omar Epps in this thread would be quiet as a church house mouse if the discussion was brought up in real life because they know people would be looking at them funny...if we started clownin about this whole Omar Epps situation in the barbershop these same dudes would be faking trying to clown with us or keep reading the magazines...and you got so called black men in this thread trying to shyt on Africa to defend a dude wearing a leather skirt :scusthov:
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