Ol’Otis
The Picasso of the Ghetto
Work on Black Panther first nikka
Mansa Musa biopic in the works...
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Oceanicpuppy
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MalikX
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The most dumbest post on here. I hate how most on the Coli swear the know so much about African history but then fall completely flat on their faces when challenged.
After Islam came Mali was the most PROSPEROUS and RICHEST empire in not just Africa but the KNOWN WORLD at that time.
Do tell us how Islam was the fall of the Mali empire. The decline however came when one of the last Mansas failed to take Djenne but more importantly when Mali was finally conquered by the (ironically non-Muslim) Songhais.
And then the Songhais were conquered by Moroccans, who were largely Muslim.
Yep. Not as much but It was progressively black before the coli or
Yeah its definitely not what it used to be.
Sauanaffe Tustunnagee
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the region which now includes modern day Mali thrived long before Islam 's arrival and did so there after in spite of not because of it's leaders choice to submit to arabism/IslamThe most dumbest post on here. I hate how most on the Coli swear the know so much about African history but then fall completely flat on their faces when challenged.
After Islam came Mali was the most PROSPEROUS and RICHEST empire in not just Africa but the KNOWN WORLD at that time.
Do tell us how Islam was the fall of the Mali empire. The decline however came when one of the last Mansas failed to take Djenne but more importantly when Mali was finally conquered by the (ironically non-Muslim) Songhais.
trading it's abundant natural resources(gold,salt) was what made Ancient Mali a power not preying to some sand cac bootleg Jesus 5011 times a day
initially druing Malis golden age it was still highly influenced by indigenous African knowledge and traditions..the more immersed in traditional Islam Mali became the more it started to decline over the years/ due to in large part to it's leaders insistence of living my Islamic law against all logic...i'm sure Mansa giving away so much of his nations wealth/gold every time he vised an arab country couldn't have helped but what was the nail in the coffin was Yemeni origin Moroccans invading and destroying all of the black African Sahel civilizations i'm sure with little resistance from African leaders/people of those kingdoms whom were taught through Islamic scripted they are abeeds made by Allah to serve sand cacs and it is harem haram to every raise their black hands aginst Allah's chosen ones
MajorVitaman
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the region which now includes modern day Mali thrived long before Islam 's arrival and did so there after in spite of not because of it's leaders choice to submit to arabism/Islam
Do you have any sources or books that go deeper into the information in this time period?
Idris for Mansa Musa!
It's happening slowly but surely we are awakening. The crack era set us back about 20yrs but I think people are starting to realize all we got is us.
It's happening slowly but surely we are awakening. The crack era set us back about 20yrs but I think people are starting to realize all we got is us.
Okay.
Sauanaffe Tustunnagee
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not at the top of my head but here is a short bio on the subject
Haley Moroccan Invasion
The Moroccan Invasion
Since the fall of Songhai, historians have been arguing about what contributed to the fall of the civilization. An event that many historians believe contributed greatly to the fall was the Moroccan Invasion. The Moroccan Invasion was in result of a series of events. In late 1590, a songhai slave, claiming to be Askia’s brother, wrote to Askia Ishaq II (ruler of songhai at the time) demanding payment of tax on the salt mine of Taghaza. Askia replied with a challenging message which sent the Moroccan army, led by Jawdar Pasha, to attack in 1591. Askia Ishaq II offered the Moroccan invaders 100,000 pieces of gold and 1,000 slaves on the condition that they leave Songhai and withdraw to Marrakech and when the Moroccan ruler, Sultan Mulay Ahmad, heard that Jawdar Pasha was going to accept, he replaced him with a new leader. The Moroccan’s were victorious, but with the new leadership Songhai was destroyed and never able to recover their empire. The Moroccan Invasion led to many outcomes that played a big role in the fall of Songhai: trade routes were ruined, the new capital of Timbuktu slowly declined, and Moroccan conquerors were unable to rule the large territory.
The Moroccan invasion led to the fall of the Songhai Empire; part of this was because it disrupted the trade routes that went through Songhai. Trans-Saharan trade continued profitably for the Songhai until Moroccan troops conquered their empire in 1591. Trade was one of the most profitable ways that Songhai was supported economically. Ed. Pierre-Damien Mvuyekure A professor from the University of Northern Iowa states, “This disruption of trans-Saharan trade routes, coupled with development of successful trade between Europeans and West Africans along the southern Gulf of Guinea coast, changed transportation patterns in the region” (Mvuyekure). As trade to North Africa became less profitable and trade between Europe and West Africa became more profitable, the civilizations along the routes declined and were soon abandoned. Songhai lost control of the trans-Saharan trade routes and was no longer economically supported, which was in result of the Moroccan invasion and contributed greatly to the fall.
Another aspect that contributed to the fall of Songhai in result of the Moroccan invasion was the decline of Timbuktu. Timbuktu, also known as Tombouctou, was made capital of Songhai instead of Gao under the rule of the Moroccans. Timbuktu was a major city of learning and commerce and once it began to decline because the arma couldn’t control it, the whole civilization began to fall. Nehemia Levtzion, a scholar of African History, states:
Tombouctou, which once had the status of a major center of learning and commerce, declined slowly, under the contested rule of the descendants of the Moroccan conquerors. Feuding factions struggled for power within Tombouctou and Tuareg nomads pressed the town from the outside (Levtzion).
As soon as Arma (Moroccan) rule struggled to control Timbuktu, the Tuareg seized the town and became the dominant power on the Niger bend. The Arma could not keep their most important city, their capital, afloat which led to them not being able to control the empire as a whole. An empire cannot not survive without their capital, so after the moroccan invasion the empire of Songhai began to fall.
Not only did trade routes become disrupted and the capital fall, but the Moroccan conquerors were unable to rule the empire they had taken over. The new system of rule, the Arma, were unable to stay in control of their empire. They were unable to control the most important cities, like the capital of Timbuktu, and unable to keep track of the vast empire. Songhai had no political stability like it did under the Askia Dynasty.
After that invasion, many towns and cities fell into disorder; many areas in the Niger River valley were depopulated as people fled before the invaders. Trade declined quickly across the unstable region. Moroccan conquerors were unable to rule the large territory they had won because the system of administration set up by the Askia had crumbled (Askia dynasty,World History).
The Arma did not have an organized way of ruling; therefore, they could not keep the empire in tact. They had no way of controlling every town along the Niger River, they had no way of keeping the citizens of Songhai from fleeing from invaders, they had no organized administration to keep Songhai from falling. The Arma underestimated the vast empire. The Moroccan invasion led to the fall of Songhai partly because its conquerors and new ruling system, the Arma, could not control the large territory.
Not all historians believe the Moroccan invasion contributed to the fall of Songhai; although most historians do. Some historian believe it had to do with the deficiency to authorize a harsh rule of succession within the Askia Dynasty. “One of the greatest weaknesses of the dynasty, however, was its failure to establish a strict rule of succession for its kings” (World History). After the death of the ruler Askia Dawud in 1582, many of the regions conquered by the Askia began to revolt. Brothers of the royal family began fighting with each other over who got the privilege of being the next king. This led to an unstable government which led to the fall of Songhai. Other historians believe it had to do with a greater civil war between the possible successors. They believe it was not just an unstable government but more immense internal political struggles. They believe that possible successors scared away the majority of the population of Songhai with civil war. Citizens who had not fled started picking sides and the problem became greater. They believe civil war along with disease that began to spread and drought contributed to the fall. Both of these events happened years before the Moroccan Invasion and right before the Moroccans invaded, the empire was still in tact, so how could they had led to the fall?
The Moroccan Invasion led to many outcomes that contributed to the fall of Songhai; trade routes were ruined, the new capital of Timbuktu slowly declined, and Moroccan conquerors were unable to rule the vast territory. Trade routes to North Africa were disrupted as it became less profitable and as trade between Europe and West Africa became more popular. The arma was unable to keep the city of learning and commerce, Timbuktu, intact and safe from other invaders. Because they were not able to rule their most important city, they weren’t able to control the empire as a whole; they did not have a good enough political system. These important aspects that were lost (a good system of making money, a good system of authorization and rule) made it easy for other empires to invade and take over. It also made it more common that citizens of Songhai fled because the newly controlled empire was no longer a good place to live. This is important today because the civilization of Songhai no longer exists. As ancient empires fell, other empires learned more about how to conserve and prevent their civilization from falling. It also caused the empire and region around it to be split into many smaller kingdoms that would be ruled with more force. Songhai was made into the Dendi Kingdom, which lasted around four hundred years. What led to this was the fall of Songhai, and what led to the fall of Songhai was the Moroccan invasion: it disrupted trade routes, led to the fall of its capital, Timbuktu and its conquerors were unable to rule the vast territory.
Drake is God
Sweeterman
How they make a movie about the black american business man James Forten? By 1810 Forten became one of the wealthiest Philadelphians in the city, black or white.
Ironman
#Knickstape
Who's writing and producing 
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blalienz
#AGP #HGC
dey aint ready for NubiaFinna be lit, Finally introducing African History to the world besides Egypt. Nubia got next
