Man of Steel (2013)

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I'm glad that after so many years we finally gonna get a modern version of Superman rather than a continuation of Donner's Silver Age Superman movies, but as epic and bad-ass as it looks, I still have reservations.

David Goyer has never shown any real understanding of or respect for what makes Superman such an iconic hero (he wrote one of the absolute worst Superman stories ever in Action Comics #900 ), and it shows in the trailers with the dodgy Pa Kent portrayal (Pa Kent telling Clark to let people die is like Uncle Ben telling Peter that with great power, he can do whatever he sees fit) and being jokey about the S on the chest. I wouldn't be surprised is there's some really corny joke mocking the glasses and haircut disguise in the movie as well.

I have high hopes Snyder and Nolan kept his weak ass in check though, especially because I have a lot of faith in Snyder's over-the-top extravagance juxtaposing Nolan's down-to-earth realism and balancing out their styles.

:comeon: There have been far worse Superman stories than that. The citizenship renouncing makes sense within a modern context. We don't deal in moral black and whites anymore and people won't relate to a superman that doesn't reflect that.
 

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:comeon: There have been far worse Superman stories than that. The citizenship renouncing makes sense within a modern context. We don't deal in moral black and whites anymore and people won't relate to a superman that doesn't reflect that.

@TheGodling would prefer if we dug Christoper Reeves and somehow shoehorned his corpse in the movie
 
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Damn... Greg Bule came a long way from banging B Rabbit's mom at 8 Mile trailer Park :ehh:


Dude is a super villain threatening Global destruction now...
 

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:comeon: There have been far worse Superman stories than that. The citizenship renouncing makes sense within a modern context. We don't deal in moral black and whites anymore and people won't relate to a superman that doesn't reflect that.

How does Superman renouncing American citizenship make any sense when he's neither American nor fighting for America? At best he's fighting for the 'American way', which is and always has been an ideal, which makes it irrelevant how much of a reality (or lie) it is in real life.

@TheGodling would prefer if we dug Christoper Reeves and somehow shoehorned his corpse in the movie

:aicmon:

Where do I state any need for this movie to fall back to the Reeves movies? All I'm saying is that as glad as I am to see we finally get a movie that moves forward with the character, they're also changing some iconic stuff that I feel shouldn't be changed. Whether it'll get in the way of my enjoyment I'll find out when I go see it, which I will, because this is my only must-see summer blockbuster.
 
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How does Superman renouncing American citizenship make any sense when he's neither American nor fighting for America? At best he's fighting for the 'American way', which is and always has been an ideal, which makes it irrelevant how much of a reality (or lie) it is in real life.

Superman is quintessentially of American origin, he was raised by archetypal Americans and espouses American ideals, most would consider him to be an American. There's no way around that.

As it stands he is now a global figure and you can't divorce America from notions of 'The American Way'. He can't purport to fight for global causes while espousing the jingoistic notion that lofty ideas are particular to one nation especially when that nation often fails to live up to those ideals.
 

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I'm glad that after so many years we finally gonna get a modern version of Superman rather than a continuation of Donner's Silver Age Superman movies, but as epic and bad-ass as it looks, I still have reservations.

David Goyer has never shown any real understanding of or respect for what makes Superman such an iconic hero (he wrote one of the absolute worst Superman stories ever in Action Comics #900 ), and it shows in the trailers with the dodgy Pa Kent portrayal (Pa Kent telling Clark to let people die is like Uncle Ben telling Peter that with great power, he can do whatever he sees fit) and being jokey about the S on the chest. I wouldn't be surprised is there's some really corny joke mocking the glasses and haircut disguise in the movie as well.

I have high hopes Snyder and Nolan kept his weak ass in check though, especially because I have a lot of faith in Snyder's over-the-top extravagance juxtaposing Nolan's down-to-earth realism and balancing out their styles.

he wrote TDK trilogy thou... and gave us blade. i'm MORE concern with snyder going over-the-top being that he had sole control on the directing effort.
 
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Just watched that trailer a second time....Got a feeling I'm going to dig this wayyyyy more than The Avengers.



This already seems a lil more heavy than that shyt
 

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Superman is quintessentially of American origin, he was raised by archetypal Americans and espouses American ideals, most would consider him to be an American. There's no way around that.

As it stands he is now a global figure and you can't divorce America from notions of 'The American Way'. He can't purport to fight for global causes while espousing the jingoistic notion that lofty ideas are particular to one nation especially when that nation often fails to live up to those ideals.

But that's what makes Superman Superman, he's here to give us hope, He's here to show that it's an attainable goal to live up to those ideals, and that those ideals are worth fighting for. The traditional phrase might be a bit outdated, but when you dig through it, it's clear it's not about America, it's about ideals. I felt the story completely missed that point, which is kinda a big deal since it's the core of the character.

he wrote TDK trilogy thou... and gave us blade. i'm MORE concern with snyder going over-the-top being that he had sole control on the directing effort.

He co-wrote the Batman trilogy. Emphasis on 'co-' because with the exception of Batman Begins, Nolan and his brother were almost entirely responsible for the actual writing with Goyer only helping on developing the plot in early stages. The only good movies he's ever been involved with are the ones where he didn't have final input, which is the only reason I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here because you got team Snyder/Nolan to keep him in check (and each other).
 

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he wrote TDK trilogy thou... and gave us blade. i'm MORE concern with snyder going over-the-top being that he had sole control on the directing effort.

he co wrote that Batman shyt and ruined Blade. If anything, Wesley, Stephen Norrington, and Del Toro were largely responsible for the success of the first 2 films.
 

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...and Hans Zimmer :blessed:


Someone needs to lay some verses over that monster beat in the trailer.
 

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I LIVE IN A CARDBOARD BOX!
Superman: General, would you care to step outside? :stopitslime:
Lois Lane: :krs: SUPERMAN!
Lex Luthor: *sighs in relief* :snoop: Superman! Thank God! :thumbsup: :blessed:
General Zod: :birdman:
Lex Luthor: :huh: Ugh! I mean GET HIM!
General Zod: Come to me, Son of Jor-El! KNEEL BEFORE ZOD! :demonic:
 

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Superman: General, would you care to step outside? :stopitslime:
Lois Lane: :krs: SUPERMAN!
Lex Luthor: *sighs in relief* :snoop: Superman! Thank God! :thumbsup: :blessed:
General Zod: :birdman:
Lex Luthor: :huh: Uh I mean GET HIM!
General Zod: Come to me, Son of Jor-El! KNEEL BEFORE ZOD! :demonic:

Bout to find this or the third one( Bomb ass movie:pacspit: if you dont like it) on netflix tonight:dj2:
 
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