Man of Steel (2013)

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It didn't underperform though. WB knew that the stigma on the character was going to be an issue after the unpopular reception that Superman Returns got.
could you ppl stop hiding behind superman returns, do you honestly think marvel/studio execs went into eddie norton's hulk saying lets taper our projections folks cuz of the trash ang lee churned out? come on.Its was a nolan produced superman movie for fukk sake and a reboot at that.Returns was irrelevant
They will be expecting major numbers with the sequel but the studio had more realistic expectations for MOS. As for Thor 2, that movie has ties to the biggest movie ever in The Avengers so expectations for it (and all of he solo Avengers movies) are expected to perform at a high level at the box office.
And again I reiterate that how much money it made doesn't matter because it made enough to be viewed as successful enough for a sequel and it was a good, entertaining movie which is all anyone who doesn't work for WB should give a fukk about.
by bringing in batman to pick up the slack u damn right they expecting big numbers
 
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It didn't underperform though. WB knew that the stigma on the character was going to be an issue after the unpopular reception that Superman Returns got. They will be expecting major numbers with the sequel but the studio had more realistic expectations for MOS. As for Thor 2, that movie has ties to the biggest movie ever in The Avengers so expectations for it (and all of he solo Avengers movies) are expected to perform at a high level at the box office.
And again I reiterate that how much money it made doesn't matter because it made enough to be viewed as successful enough for a sequel and it was a good, entertaining movie which is all anyone who doesn't work for WB should give a fukk about.

You dont give an established superhero, a film with a massive budget after the previous installment flopped hard, a massive marketing campaign, a Summer release, attach one of the "hottest" and most "known" directors in the game today who is essentially a "brand" and known for The Dark Knight, Batman trilogy and Inception, directed two superhero films that grossed over $1B and expect the film to only make around $650M at the box office, in an age where superhero movies are now blockbusters and making buck, you dont!, they were looking at $800M-$1B+. It was supposed to make more than or a similar amount to Iron Man 3, but it didn't The movie quite clearly underperformed which is why instead of there being a direct sequel, the money maker and insurance known as "Batman" has been inserted into the next film featuring the character and will be a dual film as opposed to a fully fledged solo film. It didn't bomb, it didn't flop, but it definitely underperformed. Sequels tend to make more than their predecessors, provided that they're than the first Thor film made a good return, the sequel was always gonna make more regardless of The Avengers. It's simply a question of by how much. I do agree that The Avengers helped Iron Man 3, but that doesn't mean that Man of Steel shouldn't have made more than it did. WB needed a new global giant money maker after Harry Potter and Batman, Man of Steel was supposed to be that.

Breh, you can't compare TDK, Iron Man 3, or The Avengers to MOS. Those films are already established franchises. If anything, MOS was neck and neck Iron Man 2 and The Amazing Spiderman.

MOS was a reboot and reinvention of a comic book character that isn't as appealing as he once was. Doesn't matter how famous or iconic Superman is, many consider him too much of a boyscout in this world that has super heroes murking people with no remorse.

The Amazing Spiderman(a film that was in a similar situation to Man of Steel) is seen as a box office dissapointment, so I dont see why Man of Steel cant be. Sony were expecting bigger figures, but got the lowest grossing Spiderman film instead, if number 2 doesn't crack $900-$1B like it should they're gonna regret not opting for Spiderman 4 with Toby Maguire instead.
 

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The Amazing Spiderman(a film that was in a similar situation to Man of Steel) is seen as a box office dissapointment, so I dont see why Man of Steel cant be. Sony were expecting bigger figures, but got the lowest grossing Spiderman film instead, if number 2 doesn't crack $900-$1B like it should they're gonna regret not opting for Spiderman 4 with Toby Maguire instead.

The film was also a massive box office success, grossing over $752 million worldwide and becoming the 50th-highest-grossing film of all time and the seventh-highest-grossing film of 2012. The film is the first of a series. The Amazing Spider-Man 2, is scheduled for release in 2014, with director Marc Webb and most of the first film's main cast set to return. Two more sequels have also been planned with a third film set for 2016 and a fourth film set for 2018.

Are you just making shyt up too?
 

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could you ppl stop hiding behind superman returns, do you honestly think marvel/studio execs went into eddie norton's hulk saying lets taper our projections folks cuz of the trash ang lee churned out? come on.Its was a nolan produced superman movie for fukk sake and a remake at that.Returns was irrelevant
by bringing in batman to pick up the slack u damn right they expecting big numbers
They did temper their expectations to a point with the Ed Norton Hulk movie based off of the disappointment audiences felt with the Ang Lee one but what they expected was more than what they got because they promoted the Norton Hulk as being part of the Avengers universe. So the 200 million and change worldwide was not seen as meeting even lowered expectations for a movie that was supposed to be one of the lynchpins of the Avengers build up.

And some of you dudes need to stop smoking the crack that has you assuming any movie that doesn't make a billion bucks equals it being a flop.
 

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They did temper their expectations to a point with the Ed Norton Hulk movie based off of the disappointment audiences felt with the Ang Lee one but what they expected was more than what they got because they promoted the Norton Hulk as being part of the Avengers universe. So the 200 million and change worldwide was not seen as meeting even lowered expectations for a movie that was supposed to be one of the lynchpins of the Avengers build up.

And some of you dudes need to stop smoking the crack that has you assuming any movie that doesn't make a billion bucks equals it being a flop.


not any movie, the nolan produced Superman movie
 

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not any movie, the nolan produced Superman movie
"Nolan produced" is supposed to mean something nowadays?
Maybe if it were "Nolan directed" I would give you that point but "Nolan produced"? Who gives a fukk what Chris Nolan executive produces?
 

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"Nolan produced" is supposed to mean something nowadays?
Maybe if it were "Nolan directed" I would give you that point but "Nolan produced"? Who gives a fukk what Chris Nolan executive produces?


they wanted him to direct it, but he turned him down because he was a scared betch, so they put his name all over the marquee anyway and hoped for the best

it didn't work
 

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they wanted him to direct it, but he turned him down because he was a scared betch, so they put his name all over the marquee anyway and hoped for the best

it didn't work
Sounds like you have a personal issue with Nolan that you need to work out and stop using it as a reason to bash this movie, homie.
 

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Are you just making shyt up too?

:snoop: The Amazing Spiderman is the lowest grossing Spiderman film to date, even with 3-D ticket sales. Spiderman 1-3 adjusted for inflation plus 3-D sales =$1B+ and Iron Man 3 numbers for all three films. That's where the franchise should be at, so yes it underperformed just like Man of Steel.
 

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[quote="daemonova, post: 6070082, member: 2442"]they wanted him to direct it, but he turned him down because he was a scared betch, so they put his name all over the marquee anyway and hoped for the best

it didn't work[/quote]


:what:

What was he scared of?
 

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[quote="daemonova, post: 6070082, member: 2442]they wanted him to direct it, but he turned him down because he was a scared betch, so they put his name all over the marquee anyway and hoped for the best

it didn't work


:what:

What was he scared of?[/quote]
 

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:snoop: The Amazing Spiderman is the lowest grossing Spiderman film to date, even with 3-D ticket sales. Spiderman 1-3 adjusted for inflation plus 3-D sales =$1B+ and Iron Man 3 numbers for all three films. That's where the franchise should be at, so yes it underperformed just like Man of Steel.

actually, you're wrong. Many picked The Amazing Spiderman to flop because they felt it was too early for a reboot.

Over 3,000 of you predicted this movie would be a surprise flop — but it actually performed pretty well, taking in $62 million in its opening weekend in the U.S. and winding up with a total box office of $691 million. Many people thought it was too soon for a new Spider-Man series, but moviegoers apparently didn't feel that way.

http://io9.com/5934259/biggest-box-office-hits-and-misses-of-summer-2012


Again, you're thinking illogical about how MOS should have performed at the box office. Just because other super heroes movies (which are already established franchises) were raking in money doesn't mean a movie based on Superman should do the same. Regardless of how famous or iconic he is (which is more of mystique), Superman isn't as appealing in this modern day world where today's super heroes are allowed to kill and beat up enemies with no remorse or back lash (i.e. Wolverine and Batman). And considering this a launchpad or reboot, I was surprised at the success of the film.

And the fact of the matter is, people will always look back at your last flick to see if it's appealing and Superman Returns wasn't. So the fact that it pulled in 600+ milly worldwide was more surprising considering Returns made half. Hell, you can look at Batman Begins as a prime example. The last batman movie was so bad, many consider Begins a failure at the box office.
 
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