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Callate la boca, baboso. :debo:
nikka relax ok a fukkin heat fan said that
You outchea being the Durant police.
Talm bout "don't y'all ever think of my BF in a Knicks uniform"
Making Melo a lifer and waving at Felton in Rikers: Knicks offseason thread
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Slaimon Khan Shah
SLAIMON KHAN SHAH = SHAOLIN MONK/S OF ISLAAM
Since it's something that's stopping him from getting closer to God, then why wouldn't he give it up?
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One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
Another reason the knicks might be thinking a trade to the bulls is on the way as I said before they hired a bulls scout in Clarence Gaines.
I can think of no better way out there to evaluate the talent on the bulls roster leading to a trade than a scout on the team who was part of the mindset behind drafting them. In addition to that making sure to get a scout early ahead of a draft when you have no draft picks says something. It says you want a scout who was out there looking at prospects because he was on a team looking to draft this year.
As for Melo if he stays I'm ok with that unless he wants a kobe Max and even then I wouldn't be as pissed as when they got Amare for 100 million
If Melo leaves I'm hoping the guaranteed Fifth year is enough of an incentive to Melo that he just doesn't walk away and the knicks get nothing in return. That fifth year to a aging Melo is really the only thing the Knicks got on him and Melo seems like the kind of player to take that shyt seriously.
I can think of no better way out there to evaluate the talent on the bulls roster leading to a trade than a scout on the team who was part of the mindset behind drafting them. In addition to that making sure to get a scout early ahead of a draft when you have no draft picks says something. It says you want a scout who was out there looking at prospects because he was on a team looking to draft this year.
As for Melo if he stays I'm ok with that unless he wants a kobe Max and even then I wouldn't be as pissed as when they got Amare for 100 million
If Melo leaves I'm hoping the guaranteed Fifth year is enough of an incentive to Melo that he just doesn't walk away and the knicks get nothing in return. That fifth year to a aging Melo is really the only thing the Knicks got on him and Melo seems like the kind of player to take that shyt seriously.
Slaimon Khan Shah
SLAIMON KHAN SHAH = SHAOLIN MONK/S OF ISLAAM
Thanks for the kind words.
Here's what our roster and cap looks like short term
Red = team option, blue = player option, green = QO
Ray and JR both expiring contracts that year. So they won't necessarily be guaranteed to be on this team for the rebuild from ground up.
the amare, tyson, and bargnani contracts
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'Melo's opponents shot over 40% in only 2 categories this season:
Who lit him up this season? Last season he ranked in the 69th %tile (a full 19% above average). He was excellent in defending the post up (his position [PF] last season), 92nd%tile. 'Melo doesn't rebound?
U gotta be trollin'. He ranked 35th on the season in double-doubles with 22. Gettin' teammates involved? 'Melo makes 8.3 less passes per game than Lj, who plays PG in Miami and 'Melo does not play PG. Yea, you trollin' cuz you flat out lied when you said “for every 40 point game he'll have 10 for 33 games”. It's actually more like, for every 40 point game he'll have efficient 30pt games (plural). He never “shoots them out of games” but you clearly wish he did. Without him, they'd be 50 games under 500. You're flat out bitter that 'Melo is better than Pierce. Maybe it was Shump breakin' his ankles? 'Melo is more efficient than Pierce for their careers and is shockingly getting better. I didn't expect him to become a 40.2% 3pt shooter on 5.4 attempts. Pierce only averages 0.7 more apg than 'Melo for his career and he's been on stacked teams his whole career. Now, tell another lie. He averaged 0.7 apg less than 'Melo this season. Is he so old that he can't pass the rock anymore?
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Pierce has never been dominant. JORDAN???? He was the one of the most athletically gifted players the league had ever seen when he showed up.
As for my response to @DPresidential - I deleted your LeBron points for the sake of cleanliness. LeBron has incredible physical tools, but also incredible control over those physical tools to go along with an upper-echelon understanding of the game. He's the best wing passer in the game. Great vision, great timing. He also uses a ton of angles on offense, along with the bullying that comes with his size/strength. He's also constantly getting smaller advantages, flopping is a great example... it drives people nuts, but it's small moves like that - that give him even more advantages beyond physical skills.
I don't know how to respond to "if he lost his athleticism" arguments, because if most of these guys "lose athleticism" they're no longer NBA players. Is the question "if he was only as athletic as paul pierce, would he dominate?" I don't know, Paul Pierce has never dominated... but he'd be a better passer, he'd be bigger and longer. He's a better shooter now, so he'd probably be a better shooter. He'd be better. You used Kobe, but even kobe from two years ago was WAY more athletic than Paul Pierce. You also used MJ... I don't even know how to respond to that, MJ was a freak.
I threw a lot of shade at you, probably undeserving. But the idea that the best player in the game right now "relies on his athleticism" is some real barbershop bullshyt.
As far as these points: I didn't say any of that. I only responded to the idea that LeBron relies on his athleticism. Could he depreciate? Sure. I think that if you look at how Melo's game is getting further and further from the hoop (fewer dunks in the last 4 years than he had in 08 alone) - There are concerns that his game may not age well, either. People like to say "Kobe ages well because he's so skilled" well yes, but he's also still been an elite NBA athlete up until the last two years. Top 5-10%, easy. Same with Melo. It's not like Melo is Matt Harpring and still getting buckets. We're not talking about 35 year old Sabonis with no knees giving you 12/8.
So it as a gut reaction to your post.
I also wanted to do a little myth-busting about the whole "oh his game is going to age well" - I'm not so sure of that. He's already not a good defender. He's only going to get worse. His game is getting further from the hoop, his Finishing rate around the basket is down 2+% points EVERY season for the last 6 seasons. This year 3pts made up 40% of his shots. 40%! He's missing games... there are causes for concern.
So I jumped you on the LeBron shyt to make a point about the way you were talking about basketball more than just about you. We don't know each other, I'm sure we both want the team to be good. So no beef intended...
Just look at those numbers, and look at the player we might be signing a to a max deal.
I'm not totally sold I want those trends 2, 3, 4, 5 years from now... He's not opting out of this next deal.
Lj has great vision but his timing, accuracy, and ball-handling skills are atrocious. This is why he turns the ball over so much (3.5 to 'Melo's 2.5). Did you know his assists-to-bad pass-ratio is the same as Felton's? Lj plays PG and is the primary ball handler for his team (because he can't play off the ball) leading his team not only in usage, but touches, giving him more opportunities to have direct assists (as opposed to hockey assists); always has. Felton averages almost just as many for the same reason (6.5) and he was on the Bobcats for most of his career. 'Melo has never been the primary ball-handler/facilitator for his team. It's always been guys like Billups, Baron, Jeremy, Felton, Pablo, etc. 'Melo doesn't lead his team in touches; Felton does because he's the PG. As someone on here once pointed out, let most people control the ball as much as him and they'll match his assist totals.
Lj is less than 50% from the field for his career. This is pathetic for a dunker/layup guy. That's an elite jump-shooter. He's gotten more efficient playing alongside Wade and Bosh, just as all 3 of them have gotten more efficient playing alongside one another. KD has gotten more efficient playing alongside Westbrook. In Lj's last season in Cleveland, he shot 45.1% from 5-9ft and it was only worse, the further he was from the basket. So, no, he's not a better shooter than Pierce. The biggest problem with this is that every year of his career, a large majority of his fga's came from within 5ft of the basket. Whatever will he do when he's no longer fast, athletic, and strong enough to drive like he can now against younger players?
'Melo's opponents shot over 40% in only 2 categories this season.
Who lit him up this season? Last season he ranked in the 69th %tile (a full 19% above average). He was excellent in defending the post up (his position [PF] last season) 92nd%tile. Lj's game will age better than 'Melo's?
What kind of athleticism does it take to shoot 46% from 15-19ft? 'Melo shoots at that clip from there. Ya boy is a pathetic 33.1% from there. Lj is one of the worst defenders in the league.
When he gets settled in a half court defense, he is always looking for the ball and not always watching his guy. He gets beat off the dribble a lot and his lateral movements are horrendous. In his off-ball defense, he often loses his man, and blames it on Chalmers. He's not a good on-ball defender, in fact he is quite terrible. He only defends in spurts and takes 2/3rds of games off. He doesn't shut anyone down. He stops moving/guarding someone, watches his opponents shoot the ball in and then looks down at one of his teammates to wonder what they were doing. I can give Youtube links of this, if you like, because the film don't lie.
Lj defends in transition at times. He'll roam around and make plays when he's out of position (or gambling) and he makes the flashy plays that everyone loves (steals, blocks), but when he has to face his opponent up, he's terrible. His steals be off bad passes. You never see him press someone and take their dribble. What you do see, is him play the passing lanes.
He can't defend anyone w/ talent. 'Melo and Durant be lighting him up for 30pts (Durant), 38-40+ pts and game-winners ('Melo). Beckly Mason noted in the 2012 finals:
"The tape shows Durant is hardly struggling in one-on-one confrontations with James. In fact, James has not been able to stay in front of Durant off the dribble and Durant has also been able to shoot with relative ease because James tends to play one-on-one defense with his hands low. Durant has missed some open shots, but for the most part he's getting the same looks he did against Battier". This was when Serge Ibaka said:
"LeBron is not a good defender. He can play defense for two to three minutes but not 48 minutes. LeBron can't play (Durant) one-on-one. They're playing good defense like a team".
KD shot poorly against 'Melo last season and the only reason he got 27 pts was from the free-throw line. Lj won't even shoot the ball when 'Melo is guarding him. That's 2 of the league's leading scorers. Lj can't do that and he said as much in the video below:
In this video, he claims that no one can guard KD but again, 'Melo sure did last season. Lj is so weak and soft that he won't even take on the challenge of defending people with size, like 'Melo and West. He lets Battier do it, even though he's much younger and bigger (he got like 20-lbs on battier).
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2nd option?
He led his team in scoring and was 2nd in rebounding behind a 7-footer at 8.1 to Tyson's 9.6. 
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Keep Murray I see some potential in him but fukk a Felton hope he gets 25 to life for wasting Melos prime ./
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Lj has great vision but his timing, accuracy, and ball-handling skills are atrocious. This is why he turns the ball over so much (3.5 to 'Melo's 2.5). always has. Felton averages almost just as many for the same reason (6.5) and he was on the Bobcats for most of his career. 'Melo has never been the primary ball-handler/facilitator for his team. It's always been guys like Billups, Baron, Jeremy, Felton, Pablo, etc. 'Melo doesn't lead his team in touches; Felton does because he's the PG. As someone on here once pointed out, let most people control the ball as much as him and they'll match his assist totals.
I don't even know where to start. First of all, your timing/accuracy/ball handling comment is pure fallacy. "Atrocious" the fukk are you talking about?
Next, you move the goalposts on your turnover comments... you criticize LeBron for having more turnovers than Melo, then criticize him for being the primary ball handler. Nah, he's getting 2-1 A/T% to Carmelo's 1-1. Don't glaze over numbers because they suit you. You say LeBron plays the point, but he doesn't, and then you're comparing him to point guards that have never had to carry the burden of being a team's Number 1 Scoring option. You can't come at me with that apples/oranges shyt.
"As somebody once said, let other people handle the ball as much as he does and they'll get that many assists" - Maybe? But they don't, because they can't. And those people definitely won't ALSO score 27 a game.
Lj is less than 50% from the field for his career. This is pathetic for a dunker/layup guy.
I have to stop you there, again. LeBron is not a "dunker/layup" guy. Those are centers. LeBron plays the wing. Only a THIRD of his shots come around the rim. Which means 66% of his shots are jumpers. Don't try to play me with "50%" being pathetic. His FG% this year is 57%. I'll write that again....
LeBron James this year is shooting 57% from the floor.
Michael Jordan did that exactly 0 times in his career. Never. Not once.
tremonthustler1
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Napier? Yes.1. Hire a new coach to replace Mike Woodson — someone, perhaps with experience running the triangle offense, he can mold into the great leader the Zen Master became.
- I'd be okay with Lionel Hollins personally.
2. Ensure Carmelo Anthony re-signs, selling the impending free agent on his winning formula and 2015 cap-space plan.
- It wouldn't be the end of the world if he left.
3. Investigate whether Tyson Chandler and his expiring contract will have decent trade value this offseason for a title contender, with hopes of landing prospects or picks while keeping open 2015 cap space.
- See how the Clippers do in the playoffs. They strike me as a sucker who would make a panic buy on him.
4. Upgrading the point-guard position with anyone other than Raymond Felton, who had a rough season lowlighted by gun-possession charges.
- Buy a 1st round pick in the 20's and pray Napier or Tyler Ennis are there.
5. Decide whether to take Iman Shumpert off the trading block and get his confidence back up. Or see if the Clippers’ Darren Collison still can be had in a trade. Word is, Jackson loves Shumpert’s defense.
Ennis? No (but why would you want to?)
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