Making Melo a lifer and waving at Felton in Rikers: Knicks offseason thread

[DPresidential]

Ideally, in a post Melo Knickerbockers...

When the dust settles...

Right after the draft I want to see
1-
2- Tim Hardaway & PJ Hairston (UNC)
3- Kyle Anderson (UCLA)
4- Taj Gibson & Stat
5- Bargnani

That way, Bargs & Stat go off the books & we have some young talent after all of the trades.

fukk tanking, I want to see our playes play hard and develop & still being excited for the next draft considereing no matter how hard we play, we aren't making it to the 'offs...

 

[cornercommission2k12]

Btw mirotic makes me sick already cause he a booshie euro that has all these damn demands

He saying all he wants is la or Chicago but I think ny is a market he can be talked into joining especially if he can come over and get the Jeremy Lin treatment. He def wouldn't want minny but I can see him changing his mind for the ny market

 

[Wargames]

I'm giving you the 16th pick

Might even add a couple of moderate picks

Got this year 2nd rd pick, sac pick (top 10) protected and a Cleveland swap option (top 15 protected) the good is Cleveland can make the offs next season and the kings are working hard to add a guy so they record might be good enough to drop to mid teen

yeah but if the deal includes boozer the knicks have to pay 30 million. Then what if all those picks burn out and Mirotec never comes over? The way it sounds to me the bulls are going to have to bring in a 3rd team in this deal.

Yes, the All-Star does want his full maximum contract, according to multiple sources, and who can blame him for wanting to get the most out of his full earning potential? After all, it remains to be seen whether the 30-year-old will get another long-term max deal after his next pact. Anthony has indeed started to let it be known that the Knicks might want to consider a sign-and-trade scenario with the Bulls, a person familiar with the situation confirmed, but he isn’t fixated on coming to Chicago as his only option.

But the bottom line in this entire premature, hypothetical preview of what might happen is that unless Anthony is willing to take far less money to come to Chicago—as previously stated, an unlikely occurrence and no, don’t bring up Miami’s “Big Three” making the sacrifice back in 2010, as it would only be Anthony, not a group of him and his friends, whose bank account would be affected—neither he nor the Bulls (not to mention the Rockets, Heat or any other potential suitors) are in control of this situation. The Knicks, specifically Phil Jackson, hold all the cards here.

For all of the trade proposals circulating, some more accurately portrayed than others, New York understands that if they lose Anthony, the franchise’s direction has to be clear and while Bulls fans value the likes of Jimmy Butler and Taj Gibson, let alone Carlos Boozer and his expiring contract, those players don’t necessarily move the needle elsewhere.

http://www.csnchicago.com/bulls/bulls-middle-carmelo-rumors-nothing-has-changed

^That quote is from a bull's insider. Basically Melo wants his money, and Phil will SnT him if the bulls pay the price. Its going to take youth & Picks and the knicks don't want boozer.

 

[Cory MBA]

Time to change the thread title I guess.

1) Loyal : The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

2) Where I Wanna Be: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

3) Or Nah: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

4) Cut Him Off: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

5) Melo's Room: Take Care: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

6) OG Phil D. Jackson: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

7) Fast Bucks (FBOE): The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

8) Cuffin Season: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

9) Thoughts of a Point Guard Felon: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

10) Free Agency: I Was Gonna Get Right Back: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

 

[23Barrettcity]

the shump rumor sort of makes sense to me if you believe that the Arron Affalo move is more likely to send him to NY than for the bulls. If that is true, that is way to many guys on the roster at the 2 guard. Hardaway's ability to score means you got to see if he can improve this year, and JR is a God damn albatross contract. So Shump would be the odd man out unfortunately.

Do you know what the term albatross means ?!? Jrs contract definitely isn't a albatross .

I'm starting to think Knicks fans don't even deserve Melo , only in NYC are people complaining about a top ten star getting paid you niccas rushing to go back to the dark ages.

Random tweets from the NY media. Even considering this issue won't be settled for another week the earliest it is still a good read









^ is a really interesting post and just repeats what I been saying. The knicks aren't going to do the bulls the favor and take boozer.



^ Yep, Melo isn't going to get that kobe max in NY so its on other teams to find the pieces to trade for his bird rights from the knicks if they want to give it to him



^ shyt sounds like some break up type shyt

Real talk I got respect for Phil da Gawd.

He realizes that Boozer isn't shyt and paying 15 million (or 30 million when you add cap penalties) for 16 & 19 and a euro player who says he won't even come here unless he plays for the bulls is bullshyt.

If the bulls want Melo either get the youth/player/picks the knicks want or deplete your assets regardless to get Melo and hope he is willing to take 18 starting for 4 years with the reality he is losing between 20 - 35 million over the life of the contract. If he walks and the knicks get nothing fukk it thats better than the knicks losing yet another trade..... Again

Aging player? Melo ? The man had shown no signs of slowing down and I just saw a older team with youth thrown in win a title . Phil's lakers that just won titles were based around that very idea . I'm not sure I like the idea that Phil is trying to reinvent the wheel. Let's say Melo walks to Chicago he thinks cap space and draft picks are going to make is better than the bulls and heat and pacers ? You guys need to pump your breaks with all . All the other stuff I agree with fucj helping Melo get max money no sign and trades

 

[K-Deini]

“My son goes to school and loves it here,” Anthony said on the video. “To take him out and take him somewhere else, he has to learn that system all over again.

“He has to get new friends. I know how hard it was for me when I moved from New York to Baltimore at a young age, having to work to make friends and fit in and try to figure out the culture in that area. As far as basketball goes, it’s hard to just say OK I’m going to go there. Everybody is effected by it.”

Anthony also said that it’s not only about next season – which the Knicks don’t appear to be title contenders after a 37-45 clip. There’s been speculation he doesn’t want to waste a season before the Knicks reload via 2015 free agency but he put the kibosh on it.

“The average person is looking at it next year – like it’s one year – you can win a championship if you go here,” Anthony said. “We’re looking at the big picture. You’re looking at the next six years of your career.”

http://nypost.com/2014/06/23/carmelo-loves-being-a-knick-agent-says-after-finalizing-opt-out/

i dont think hes leaving. that last quote works in our favor.

 

[Cory MBA]

Thread Title Update Suggestions: (Mentioned above already)

1) Loyal : The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

2) Where I Wanna Be: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

3) Or Nah: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

4) Cut Him Off: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

5) Melo's Room: Take Care: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

6) OG Phil D. Jackson: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

7) Fast Bucks (FBOE): The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

8) Cuffin Season: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

9) Thoughts of a Point Guard Felon: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

10) Free Agency: I Was Gonna Get Right Back: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

 

[Wargames]

Do you know what the term albatross means ?!? Jrs contract definitely isn't a albatross .

I'm starting to think Knicks fans don't even deserve Melo , only in NYC are people complaining about a top ten star getting paid you niccas rushing to go back to the dark ages.

Aging player? Melo ? The man had shown no signs of slowing down and I just saw a older team with youth thrown in win a title . Phil's lakers that just won titles were based around that very idea . I'm not sure I like the idea that Phil is trying to reinvent the wheel. Let's say Melo walks to Chicago he thinks cap space and draft picks are going to make is better than the bulls and heat and pacers ? You guys need to pump your breaks with all . All the other stuff I agree with fucj helping Melo get max money no sign and trades

JR can't be moved and he's stuck here after 2015. yeah he and Felton are smaller contracts but the knicks are stuck with them and the negatives they both bring. So I look at them as the 2 post 2015 albatross contracts. I still feel part of the reasoning behind the bargnani trade was to get Novak and Camby's 2016/2017 expiring contracts off the book because every bit of cap space counts when your trying to get great players. Look at 2010 as a reminder.

As for Phil giving Melo 26 million annually is a bad move for the knicks. Its not like the knicks have a winning core and your just paying Melo what he is worth, if the knicks keep Melo they need to build a roster around him and him making 26 million (which is damn near the equivalent of 2 Max's under this CBA) is going to make it very likely the knicks continue to be a treadmill team. So I look at it this way, either

1) Melo realizes that the knicks fifth year guarantee is enough and he takes 18-20 million for 5 years
2) the Knicks find somebody to do the Sign and Trade and get about 20-22 million back in assets for their trouble and recoup some of what they spent to get Melo

All signs point to Melo wanting his money, but Melo getting his money in NY doesn't mean shyt if the knicks can't get out the second round for the next 5 years. So Phil is playing this smart the knicks seem to have realized championships are about the organization not just the star player.

 

[The War Report]

Do you know what the term albatross means ?!? Jrs contract definitely isn't a albatross .

I'm starting to think Knicks fans don't even deserve Melo , only in NYC are people complaining about a top ten star getting paid you niccas rushing to go back to the dark ages.

Aging player? Melo ? The man had shown no signs of slowing down and I just saw a older team with youth thrown in win a title . Phil's lakers that just won titles were based around that very idea . I'm not sure I like the idea that Phil is trying to reinvent the wheel. Let's say Melo walks to Chicago he thinks cap space and draft picks are going to make is better than the bulls and heat and pacers ? You guys need to pump your breaks with all . All the other stuff I agree with fucj helping Melo get max money no sign and trades

You're fukking delusional. If you haven't noticed the declining athleticism and him losing his first step soon, then you're blind. Dude has no lift and he can't finish for shyt anymore.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

yeah but if the deal includes boozer the knicks have to pay 30 million. Then what if all those picks burn out and Mirotec never comes over? The way it sounds to me the bulls are going to have to bring in a 3rd team in this deal.



http://www.csnchicago.com/bulls/bulls-middle-carmelo-rumors-nothing-has-changed

^That quote is from a bull's insider. Basically Melo wants his money, and Phil will SnT him if the bulls pay the price. Its going to take youth & Picks and the knicks don't want boozer.

From the looks of it seems like a s&t won't happen and the bulls are proceeding like a team ready to just clear the 18 mill and hope melo takes that. I can understand the tax thing

The bulls are not parting with taj or jimmy unless it's for Kevin love . I think if lebron wade and bosh take less to add to they roster melo will likely take less to help the bulls keep there exceptions to add to the roster.

 

[Wargames]

From the looks of it seems like a s&t won't happen and the bulls are proceeding like a team ready to just clear the 18 mill and hope melo takes that. I can understand the tax thing

The bulls are not parting with taj or jimmy unless it's for Kevin love . I think if lebron wade and bosh take less to add to they roster melo will likely take less to help the bulls keep there exceptions to add to the roster.

idk i keep saying the boozer for arron affalo rumor to me looks like the bulls looking at orlando as the third team for the deal, hell before it is done a 4th team might be brought in as well.

The knicks didn't say they wouldn't trade with the bulls (or that they wouldn't trade Melo) they just said they won't take boozer. In my mind that is basically telling the bulls they need to flip assets to other teams to get the knicks what they want.

Affalo is a high character 2 way player who could be a potential team leader, He has the profile of the type of player you would want on your team if you planned to fill the roster with young players.

 

[23Barrettcity]

You're fukking delusional. If you haven't noticed the declining athleticism and him losing his first step soon, then you're blind. Dude has no lift and he can't finish for shyt anymore.

For a guy who loves stats when they apply to kd I'm glad you use the eye test for Melo . His athleticism was never his strong suit , his shot and strength are fine . The other stuff is debatable because he been playing the 4 and trying to build up for a season of punishment , he looked perfectly fine and athletic in the Olympics .

 

[I.V.]

I'll take boozer if you give me the 16, 19, mirotic and maybe a future second or two...

Gotta know Mirotic is coming over. But assuming that's all cool... yeah, take melo.

I'm not mad at him, I'm just ready to do what's best for the team, long-term.

 

[Daniel.]

1) Loyal : The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

2) Where I Wanna Be: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

3) Or Nah: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

4) Cut Him Off: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

5) Melo's Room: Take Care: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

6) OG Phil D. Jackson: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

7) Fast Bucks (FBOE): The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

8) Cuffin Season: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

9) Thoughts of a Point Guard Felon: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

10) Free Agency: I Was Gonna Get Right Back: The 2014 Knicks Off-Season Thread

I prefer Predicate Felton, myself, but

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Yo fukk Raymond Felton wife

Smh at how she snitched on the nikka like that

I ain't know she brought the gun down to the station

These hoes be doing the most when they heart broken

Word?! When did that happen?!