Making Melo a lifer and waving at Felton in Rikers: Knicks offseason thread

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Not for nothing, but when you got nikkas looking like this in the offseason I would question their conditioning too

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Thinking about that Dallas trade, it was such a "Phil" trade. He got 1 of the the best pg's in the league, a 1st round pick (Larkin), 2 second round picks (one of whom is 1st round talent but older than teams were looking for-- early) for a guy that had one good year out of 3 (still never played more than 66 games in NY), and Felton. Phil had everything to do with the players he coached, most notably, trading Oak for Cartwright. He said so in his presser. Coaches usually are very involved (Woodson went after Kidd and all the old heads last season). It's straight scary to think about what Phil will do with cap space. Just like the Spurs, it will be the best system (and those who fit it), not "Big 3's" that will dominate.

:mjlol: at the notion that 'Melo won't win with Phil. If 'Melo stays healthy, he will win because Phil is bringing at least one to the Mecca regardless. Phil is that guy. Jerry Krause said “he’s got a good defensive mind and wonderful people skills with players”. Krause added “I don’t know Carmelo. If he’s serious about winning, Phil will be able to get to him. The Triangle is great for stars.” Phil is also setting things up for more ch'ips when he leaves.

KD has been on a contender for years and only went to the Finals once (and lost very early). This wouldn't be the case if Phil was okc's president. Dating back to Cleveland, Lj has been on contenders for at least 6 years of his career and only has 2 ch'ips. This wouldn't be the case if Phil was Cleveland's and/or Miami's president (not to take anything away from Riles). 'Melo has never been on a contender and that will change under Phil, most likely as early as 1 year from now. I hope the fans are ready, but if not, Phil's like :yeshrug:. Get ready, or get left. :wow:
 
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@23statcity: Another thing about not having to "master" the Triangle to come out of a weak East is that it's not like Coach Fish doesn't have a plan for success while they learn it. Shane Larkin said Fish told them that while they're learning it, they can defend to make sure they still win and if you remember, that's exactly what they went out and did. It helped that they had the personnel. Larkin was named to the ACC All-Defensive team and was very good on defense in the Summer League and in Dallas whenever he got to play. Thanasis and Early are both good defenders.

The Triangle isn't just an offensive system it is also a system the sets up defensive scheming based on the position of the guards at the top of the key on both sides, which allows for both guards to get back to help prevent fast breaks (NY's biggest defensive weakness this past season), and depending on the position of the passing post player, it allows for a big man to either trail or get back quickly to defend the post. That's the strength of the system. It also helps cover defensive deficiencies due to the positioning of the players. We all know that Kerr, B.J. Armstrong, Luc Longley, Tony Kukoc, and Rick Fox ( to name a few) weren't defensive stoppers who could lock down the elite players at their positions.
 
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ZemaPromos said:
@23statcity: Another thing about not having to "master" the Triangle to come out of a weak East is that it's not like Coach Fish doesn't have a plan for success while they learn it. Shane Larkin said Fish told them that while they're learning it, they can defend to make sure they still win and if you remember, that's exactly what they went out and did. It helped that they had the personnel. Larkin was named to the ACC All-Defensive team and was very good on defense in the Summer League and in Dallas whenever he got to play. Thanasis and Early are both good defenders.

The Triangle isn't just an offensive system it is also a system the sets up defensive scheming based on the position of the guards at the top of the key on both sides, which allows for both guards to get back to help prevent fast breaks (NY's biggest defensive weakness this past season), and depending on the position of the passing post player, it allows for a big man to either trail or get back quickly to defend the post. That's the strength of the system. It also helps cover defensive deficiencies due to the positioning of the players. We all know that Kerr, B.J. Armstrong, Luc Longley, Tony Kukoc, and Rick Fox ( to name a few) weren't defensive stoppers who could lock down the elite players at their positions.
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I never thought I'd be so happy to see the triangle put in untill I saw making ni adjustments and allowing the same flaws to get exploited over and over . The stability will be a big asset for the team
 
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