Making Melo a lifer and waving at Felton in Rikers: Knicks offseason thread

[JMurder]

Phil seems ready to play hardball with Melo - Knicks Blog - ESPN New York

My reasoning is all in here

 

[OsO]

you're sitting there acting like the only way the Knicks can win in the next few years is if Melo is on the team. Meanwhile teams like Indiana proved you can do it without having to indebt yourself to a single player. I've said since Melo announced that he wants to opt out....if he's gonna come back he needs to take a paycut.

Otherwise

that's where we disagree. i think the knicks need a few more small pieces to surround melo, and i think they can accomplish that with or without melo taking the pay cut.

re-signing melo (and getting a good coach) means guaranteed success next season, and that's a pretty concrete scenario. but letting melo walk and somehow getting better is all hypotheticals at this point.

i'm still waiting to hear someone break down the scenarios where the knicks let melo walk and then get better because of it. what players/contracts are involved in that exactly?

what does STAT have to do with anything?

because it's all about context.

 

[Mr swag]

Melo said he would take less if it would help the team win. And if we're being honest, him taking less gives the Knicks a better opportunity to put good pieces around him. If Melo's telling the truth, it's not a big deal and skirts the popular opinion that he's about money over winning while giving the Knicks a flexibility they're going to need after next season. If he's lying then he's probably gonna leave us anyway while asking us to sign & trade him to a better team.

Edit: Here...this pretty much sums it up



He's taking a cue from respectable organizations on how to win...you guys are trying to promote being the Knicks. It dont go hand in hand brehs

I don't think he needs to take less. Amare and Andrea contracts are going to be gold this off-season

For example you can trade Andrea and world peace for josh smith and amare for joe johnson

PG Felton
SG joe/jr
SF melo
PF josh
C Tyson

 

[Trip]

If Melo doesn't want to take less he doesn't have to. It's his option to opt out or not.

 

[Captain Crunch]

If Melo resigns; which guys do you think the Onicks can realistically target in the next 3 years(either through FA or trade)?

 

[DPresidential]

Cats really wanting Melo to walk

Bruh...

Who wants Melo to walk?

All we are happy about is the fact that a new face of the organization is talking straight...if he stays. that is great and hopefully he'll take a little less money to help get him a winning team.

If he leaves, well, we will still keep spirits up and try our best to bring pieces together.

The fukk do yall want Phil to say,

Be on the bench like,

"PLEASE MELO, PLEASE PLEASE"

FOH. He said the right thing. He Remained confident and real about the situation dealing with one of the best players in the league, who is not only looking for money, but also confidence in an organization, not pandering.

 

[nomoreneveragain]

There should be a Knicks game on Tonight ...

 

[Cory MBA]

Players trashed Woodson in exit interviews: Jackson

In nothing short of a dig at former coach Mike Woodson, Knicks president Phil Jackson revealed several players during exit interviews told him the club didn’t play as a team this season and relied solely on its talent.

The Knicks finished 37-45, missing the playoffs for the first time since 2009-10. During his 24-minute press conference Wednesday, Jackson didn’t mention Woodson’s name once.

“One of the messages from the players was that it was a very talented team,’’ Jackson said. “They had to have a lot of games where they forced their talent on opposing teams rather than playing with freedom to make things easy. All the wins were hard to get. They were winning with talent and not with team play, which I thought was an accurate statement.

“I think the talent’s there,’’ Jax added. “How to blend it together is a coaching decision and a personnel decision.’’

Players trashed Woodson in exit interviews: Jackson | New York Post

:sasword:

 

[nomoreneveragain]

:sasword:

Its the Truth

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

The players were probably fed up with his play calling & rotations as well. With Melo back next year, I don't see why this team can't be a top 4-5 team in the East.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I don't think he needs to take less. Amare and Andrea contracts are going to be gold this off-season

For example you can trade Andrea and world peace for josh smith and amare for joe johnson

 

[Wargames]

you're sitting there acting like the only way the Knicks can win in the next few years is if Melo is on the team. Meanwhile teams like Indiana proved you can do it without having to indebt yourself to a single player. I've said since Melo announced that he wants to opt out....if he's gonna come back he needs to take a paycut.

Otherwise

While I like your point Indiana overpaid Hibbert and George. The only shining light involved is there youth.

When its all said and done. The knicks have options and Melo has options and neither side seems desperate for the other. Thats good, thats how you want to negotiate a new contract, from a position of strength. All those teams that did "please stay" billboards lost their star and their pride. For once the knicks arent doing something stupid,

 

[Mr swag]

Welcome back to the lotto for another 10 years

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

I'm bored, so here's a list of unrestricted & restricted pgs for this summer:

Unrestricted:
Kyle Lowry
Rodney Stuckey
Mario Chalmers
Shaun Livingston
Ramon Sessions
Steve Blake
Luke Ridnour
Jerryd Bayless
Kirk Hinrich
Jordan Farmer
Aaron Brooks
DJ Augustin
Devin Harris
Toney Douglas
Beno Udrih

Restricted:
Eric Bledsoe
Isaiah Thomas
Greivis Vasquez
Jordan Crawford
Brian Roberts

 

[Cory MBA]

I'm bored, so here's a list of unrestricted & restricted pgs for this summer:

Unrestricted:
Kyle Lowry
Rodney Stuckey
Mario Chalmers
Shaun Livingston
Ramon Sessions
Steve Blake
Luke Ridnour
Jerryd Bayless
Kirk Hinrich
Jordan Farmer
Aaron Brooks
DJ Augustin
Devin Harris
Toney Douglas
Beno Udrih

Restricted:
Eric Bledsoe
Isaiah Thomas
Greivis Vasquez
Jordan Crawford
Brian Roberts

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