Making Melo a lifer and waving at Felton in Rikers: Knicks offseason thread

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Cole Aldrich :heh:

i actually had to go back and look at him on espn, thought i had missed his stats somehow

he only averaged 2.0 points! And he's better Noah?

worst post of the year #wpoy


:dahell: Just because a player is buried on a bench, doesn't mean they're not good. It just means Woodson isn't as smart as Thibbs. Cole outplayed Tyson and should've been treated as such. :dahell:Phil corrected this problem with a contract. Even Tim should have gotten Swish's minutes until he recovered. Now, Noah's 12 pts makes him an All-Star :dahell:? I thought it was his defense and rebounding. According to NBA.com's stats, players shot 43.6% at the rim this past season against Cole. Against Noah, they shot 46.8%. This past season Cole averaged 14.1 rpg per 36 minutes compared to Noah's 11.5. This past season, Noah only averaged 2.9 more ppg per 36 mins than Cole. That's why NY just signed him to play more minutes. The only category that Noah has a significant edge on Cole is his passing. Got any actual facts to dispute this?
 

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nikkas really arguing that Cole Aldrich is better than Noah. :snoop:

According to NBA.com's stats, players shot 43.6% at the rim this past season against Cole. Against Noah, they shot 46.8%. This past season Cole averaged 14.1 rpg per 36 minutes compared to Noah's 11.5. This past season, Noah only averaged 2.9 more ppg per 36 mins than Cole. That's why NY just signed him to play more minutes. The only category that Noah has a significant edge on Cole is his passing. Got any actual facts to dispute this?

Personally I think it would be a hoot if Cole became a breakout star next season and ended up becoming the second greatest center in NBA history.:russ:


Now, Noah's the greatest? Y'all love to worship other players :scusthov:. Now, y'all overrating him to the point that if someone is better, they're “the greatest”. News flash, Noah is not the best defender in the league. Y'all are so used to losing that everyone is better than everyone on your team. Y'all let people say Paul George is better than 'Melo, but get sensitive when the facts show that Cole is a better defender than Noah when he's not even on your team, just because he's finally been voted an All-Star. Y'all probably recently started hyping him :scusthov:.

Come On please don't be that guy. Cole had to play on the summer league team just to get a contract slimette :damn:

:dahell: Just because a player is buried on a bench, doesn't mean they're not good. It just means Woodson isn't as smart as Thibbs. Cole outplayed Tyson and should've been treated as such. :dahell: Phil corrected this problem with a contract. Even Tim should have gotten Swish's minutes until he recovered.
 
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cole was playing limited garbage minutes against bench players, not the best big men on the other team for the entire game like DPOY joakim noah. this may account for the very slight stat differentials per 36 that you're repeating to try to convince everyone that Cole Aldrich is better than Joakim Noah.

This is literally the worst basketball argument i've ever seen on the internet. I like your enthusiasm and a lot of your posts because even if i disagree you try to back up your opinions as best you can, but this is just nonsense.
 

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cole was playing limited garbage minutes against bench players, not the best big men on the other team for the entire game like DPOY joakim noah. this may account for the very slight stat differentials per 36 that you're repeating to try to convince everyone that Cole Aldrich is better than Joakim Noah.

This is literally the worst basketball argument i've ever seen on the internet. I like your enthusiasm and a lot of your posts because even if i disagree you try to back up your opinions as best you can, but this is just nonsense.

This is not true. He was Tyson's primary back up and the fans were complaining that it wasn't Tyler (I was one of them, until I started to see the impact he was having. He even outplayed Tyson). Cole played against real competition (one example is his 13 points with 13 rebounds against the Nets). That's why Cole is signed and Tyler still isn't.
 
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No offense, but you guys are so brainwashed by the media, it's pathetic. You made so much of the veteran leadership from last season, only because the media did. If they won 54 games because of the vets, what happened when Swish's knee went out? They struggled. What happened when Kidd could no longer hit a shot (let alone all those 3's he was raining)? They struggled. What happened when Swish got healthy and the vets weren't around? They thrived. Did y'all follow the media when they said NY was too old all season long? Or, did you just follow them when they switched it up on you? They used the vets to insult your team. The way they played it, the vets were only a help when you no longer had them. When you had them, they were too old, but when you didn't have them, it was the reason you struggled. Y'all really need to get minds of your own.

If the media says 'Melo is trash, that's what you believe and that's how you treat him. You claim Durant can be the leader on a championship team, even though he's been on stacked teams and can't win, get's punked by players half his size (Tony Allen, CP3), becomes a colossal chucker, missed the Playoffs more times than 'Melo, one of which was with RW, etc. But you claim 'Melo can't win being the leader on a championship team, when he's never been on one :scusthov:. You say this only because the media says it :scusthov: . 'Melo has done more with less than Lj and Durant ever had. If he can win 54 games with the AARP club, go to the WCF with old Billups, what was the worst b-ball of all time (the old J.R.), with the rest of the team not even knowing what offense is, I'm sure he can lead Wade and Bosh to more than 2 of 4 ch'ips, not get punked by Kawhi and his old team, not get punked by players half his size like Lj did in the 2011 finals (Kidd, Terry, Barea), not get swept by the AARP club like Lj did in '07, not disappear in most quarters like Lj did in this season's Finals (click here to read about it), performing like trash in 4 of 5 Finals, even on stacked teams and missing the Playoffs more times than 'Melo (2 years in a row) in a weak East etc. You've actually seen the sorry showing from others players on stacked teams, but you still worship them. You haven't even seen what 'Melo can do on a stacked team, but you still belittle him, all because the media tells you what to think and how to feel. :scusthov:

You worship other franchises only because the media tells you it's tragic that NY ain't won in over 40 years. It's funny how I never hear about how the Clips have never won and was trash for their entire existence, with the exception of the last 5 years, if that, and they got all that money. NY has had more good teams than they have. You worship Miami because they got rings recently but they only got 1 more than NY. That means they still were losing for decades at a time, just like NY. It's funny how I never hear about how Cleveland ain't never won and Lj couldn't help them and y'all worship him because he went runnin' to a stacked team and to Wade to save him and he still couldn't perform at a high level in the Finals for most of his trips there.
 
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