Making Melo a lifer and waving at Felton in Rikers: Knicks offseason thread

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No offense, but you guys are so brainwashed by the media, it's pathetic. You made so much of the veteran leadership from last season, only because the media did. If they won 54 games because of the vets, what happened when Swish's knee went out? They struggled. What happened when Kidd could no longer hit a shot (let alone all those 3's he was raining)? They struggled. What happened when Swish got healthy and the vets weren't around? They thrived. Did y'all follow the media when they said NY was too old all season long? Or, did you just follow them when they switched it up on you? They used the vets to insult your team. The way they played it, the vets were only a help when you no longer had them. When you had them, they were too old, but when you didn't have them, it was the reason you struggled. Y'all really need to get minds of your own.

If the media says 'Melo is trash, that's what you believe and that's how you treat him. You claim Durant can be the leader on a championship team, even though he's been on stacked teams and can't win, get's punked by players half his size (Tony Allen, CP3), becomes a colossal chucker etc. But you claim 'Melo can't win being the leader on a championship team, when he's never been on one :scusthov:. You say this only because the media says it :scusthov: . 'Melo has done more with less than Lj and Durant ever had. If he can win 54 games with the AARP club, go to the WCF with old Billups, what was the worst b-ball of all time (the old J.R.), with the rest of the team not even knowing what offense is, I'm sure he can lead Wade and Bosh to more than 2 of 4 ch'ips, not get punked by Kawhi and his old team, not get punked by players half his size like Lj did in the 2011 finals (Kidd, Terry, Barea), not get swept by the AARP club like Lj did in '07, not disappear in most quarters like Lj did in this season's Finals (click here to read about it), performing like trash in 1 of 4 Finals, even on stacked teams, etc. You've actually seen the sorry showing from others players on stacked teams, but you still worship them. You haven't even seen what 'Melo can do on a stacked team, but you still belittle him, all because the media tells you what to think and how to feel. :scusthov:

You worship other franchises only because the media tells you it's tragic that NY ain't won in over 40 years. It's funny how I never hear about how the Clips have never won and was trash for their entire existence, with the exception of the last 5 years, if that, and they got all that money. NY has had more good teams than they have. You worship Miami because they got rings recently but they only got 1 more than NY. That means they still were losing for decades at a time, just like NY. It's funny how I never hear about how Cleveland ain't never won and Lj couldn't help them and y'all worship him because he went runnin' to a stacked team and to Wade to save him and he still couldn't perform at a high level in the Finals for most of his trips there.

I missed a lot yesterday. I agree with this post but with the Noah/Aldrich debate you was wiling....All those stats you pulled out is the same BS espn tries to throw at us. Nothing beats the eye test somethings stats just can't show you. It's no way Cole Aldrich is better then Noah. Most people don't watch games, they watch highlights and box scores and these media outlets know this thats why they put so much emphasis on Stats
 

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I missed a lot yesterday. I agree with this post but with the Noah/Aldrich debate you was wiling....All those stats you pulled out is the same BS espn tries to throw at us. Nothing beats the eye test somethings stats just can't show you. It's no way Cole Aldrich is better then Noah. Most people don't watch games, they watch highlights and box scores and these media outlets know this thats why they put so much emphasis on Stats

This accusation makes no sense. I'm passionate about sports but I don't wanna watch games? I watched Nené punk a once-again broken down Noah. Who punked Cole? Katz was just runnin' up in the paint on Cole having their way with him?
 

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No offense, but you guys are so brainwashed by the media, it's pathetic.

Listen shortbus. You are out here trumpeting a 3% differential in FG% at the rim, and ignoring Cole Aldrich's MUCH MUCH MUCH smaller sample size AND the fact that he was a backup, playing against backups.

Your understanding of math is flimsy, at best. And your application of that loose-grip is sad and forced in this scenario. There are a bunch of big men in the NBA that you could argue Cole Aldrich is AS GOOD or BETTER than... but you chose noah... which means you simply don't watch games.

I'm going to block you now, because you are - bar none - the worst poster in the Knicks thread, which in and of itself is a goddamn achievement.

#blocafella
 

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How can a top 3 Center get buried on the bench? :dahell:

That must mean scott brooks and Sam Presti are idiots too for letting a player like that walk for nothing too
 

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I missed a lot yesterday. I agree with this post but with the Noah/Aldrich debate you was wiling....All those stats you pulled out is the same BS espn tries to throw at us. Nothing beats the eye test somethings stats just can't show you. It's no way Cole Aldrich is better then Noah. Most people don't watch games, they watch highlights and box scores and these media outlets know this thats why they put so much emphasis on Stats
Yeah very true , idk bout Noah vs cold though , I ran at some windmills on this board before but that one :patrice: I like zema and can't stand @I.V. ( jr trip) Posting style so I'll stay out it .
 

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How can a top 3 Center get buried on the bench? :dahell:

That must mean scott brooks and Sam Presti are idiots too for letting a player like that walk for nothing too

:merchant: What exactly does Brooks have to do with Woodson, a guy who played an injured J.R. over Tim? However, I'll indulge you. I guess they are incompetent, considering they played a guy who gets 3.4ppg, 0.4spg, 0.5bpg, and 4.9rpg in 19.5mpg (Perkins) when Cole averaged 2ppg, 0.2spg, 0.7bpg, and 2.8rpg in 7.2mpg. :sas1:
 
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This accusation makes no sense. I'm passionate about sports but I don't wanna watch games? I watched Nené punk a once-again broken down Noah. Who punked Cole? Katz was just runnin' up in the paint on Cole having their way with him?

The might be true....But it was a couple times I saw Cole Aldrich miss a easy layup and im yelling at the TV why this doofy mofo in the game....I mean he had his moments here and there but for you to say to even mention him in the same breath as a proven player like Noah is crazy....forget stats thats just from watching and knowing the game of basketball
 

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I skimmed through here, is there really a debate about whose better, Cac Aldrich or Noah? :snoop:
 

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You guys are seroiusly think you gon make some noise in a weak ass eastern conference? :mjlol:


Know ur place knicks fans:umad:
 
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