Mahomes vs Hurts TWO BLACK QBS IN THE SUPERBOWL ON BLACK HISTORY MONTH
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no homo but he looks better
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May the best man win.
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Never ever ever forget that the racist piece of shyt website Deadspin in 2008 wrote an article (written by white boy piece of shyt Drew Magary) called the death of the black QB with an image of a gravestone with death of the black QB on it. This was the year only McNabb and David Garrard were the only black QBs that were starters for the entire season. I laughed at that racist shyt then and laugh at that racist shyt now. Cause since then we have had multiple black QBs win SuperBowls, start in SuperBowls, win MVPs, be the top overall picks and now face each other in the SuperBowl..
This is a great point. I really think folks undersell how far the black qb landscape has come in just the past decade. I also think it's undersold how barren the landscape was for black qbs in the late 00s and how important that 2011-15 era of black quarterbacks was to the current breakout we have now
Cam really jumpstarted everything for the current generation. Around the time he got drafted the only quality 'franchise-caliber' guy was Vick; McNabb was on his last legs and everyone else was pretty much irrelevant. And there was a lot of pressure on him after the failures of Vince Young and JaMarcus Russell (fair or otherwise). If he didn't pull through as the #1 pick (like many were hoping) that might've been a big setback to teams giving brehs a real chance
Luckily Cam blew the doors off his rookie season, and he was backed up by RG3, Wilson and Kaep the next year as all three made the playoffs with Griffin winning rookie of the year and Kaep getting to the Super Bowl. Wilson followed that up by getting to the SB himself in 2013-14 and winning one, then things got capped off when Cam became the first black qb to win MVP outright in 2015. Russell's breakout that same year to prove he was more than a game-manager was big too
Those guys showed a combination of passing and running that was incredible at the time and more importantly, by a young black qb going to the Super Bowl four straight years it made front offices believe that you could win with said talent. No more trying to fit them into being something they're not; instead teams started trying to cater to their strengths (though I personally believe this has had an adverse effect at times with teams stunting some guys development as passers)
Now you have close to a third of the league's starters being black; that was unheard of not even 10 years ago. And it's only going to continue to grow
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Those of us who have two black parents live our lives drenched in the weight of blackness. For better and worse...
Those of us who have a nonblack parent don't have the same burden on their shoulders in majority of cases, unless you look like J Cole or Obama or something (you look as of you do have two black parents). And many of us who have a nonblack parent assimilate into nonblack culture because it's more beneficial for them...
Point blank, if you have a nonblack parent and aren't culturally black, you're not black. And I'm okay with it, I've lived in 7 states, I've seen biracial blacks who opt for the other side, it is what it is. They aren't my people...
This man's lived experience isn't as a black man. First of all we know he didn't grow up around us. And if he wasn't rocking the faux jheri and had a regular cut, this guy would look like a white man with a slight tan. He ain't got no overt black features...
I don't give a shyt about PR spots on George Floyd or identifying as a black QB in interviews, his LIVED EXPERIENCE on the day to day isn't as a black man. He's not surrounded with black associates who aren't teammates, and he married and had kids with a white woman...
All of this is voluntary, it doesn't bother me. I am bothered when we want to include him and people like him who've gone out of their way to step away from blackness...
I'll celebrate the SB as two black QBs too, because in the context of the NFL it fits, and The League is clearly leaning into the good press on it. But in real life this isn't a black man---->he's a white man who happened to have a black father. This is not a brother, though...
Those of us who have a nonblack parent don't have the same burden on their shoulders in majority of cases, unless you look like J Cole or Obama or something (you look as of you do have two black parents). And many of us who have a nonblack parent assimilate into nonblack culture because it's more beneficial for them...
Point blank, if you have a nonblack parent and aren't culturally black, you're not black. And I'm okay with it, I've lived in 7 states, I've seen biracial blacks who opt for the other side, it is what it is. They aren't my people...
This man's lived experience isn't as a black man. First of all we know he didn't grow up around us. And if he wasn't rocking the faux jheri and had a regular cut, this guy would look like a white man with a slight tan. He ain't got no overt black features...
I don't give a shyt about PR spots on George Floyd or identifying as a black QB in interviews, his LIVED EXPERIENCE on the day to day isn't as a black man. He's not surrounded with black associates who aren't teammates, and he married and had kids with a white woman...
All of this is voluntary, it doesn't bother me. I am bothered when we want to include him and people like him who've gone out of their way to step away from blackness...
I'll celebrate the SB as two black QBs too, because in the context of the NFL it fits, and The League is clearly leaning into the good press on it. But in real life this isn't a black man---->he's a white man who happened to have a black father. This is not a brother, though...
Dope post! @murksiderock when you say if he had a regular haircut do you mean like a buzz cut or something?
murksiderock
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If he rocked the baldy or any of them white boy cuts like a buzz cut, yeah....
Physically he isn't an obviously BLACK man the way Cole and Obama are. Like most lighter folk the hue of his melanin shades and fades in different seasons, different weather, etc, so that's a tell that he has a black parent. But there are times you see him and his skin is pale...
The biggest thing is look at who he surrounds himself with. This "Black man" doesn't have a single business venture or agency where his managers and representatives are mostly black (think about LeBron here). He doesn't live and move in black spaces, culturally he is not one of US. He always has the bail out, "my dad is black" card, but he isn't one of us..
This is on top of him assuredly not living among us, and we know he didn't seek a black woman as a partner...
He has his bailout card but he's not one of us...