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Can't be bothered to look it up myself, but I'd be curious to see exactly how many players in the 2020's played all 82 games, as opposed to the 2010's, and 2000's, 90's, and so on
 

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Because of the shytty way that a lot of those OGs treat the current generation that's why.

A lot of those OGs would be under the same load management regiment that this current generation is on if data and analytics were available and they wouldn't be dealing as many health issues as they are now.
Nah, because it's a different mindset. Getting paid to play the game you love to play is a completely different mindset than getting the bag to secure it all and doing everything to protect the brand. The hard work mantra is different than I can coast and turn it up if needed.

But also the delivery comes off different in these times. They attempt to pass it down the way they were taught. To these kids, it comes off as hating or too aggressive, because they were brought up too coddled. The OGs look at it as not respecting the game that affords them this luxury. On some part, it is also the owners...but it seems that once the mindset has settled in amongst the players, it is too late to change it...without a hard reset.
 

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Todays nba sucks! What else is new :yeshrug:

Won’t check any games til April 18th or whenever the WOAT meaningless play in games start


This is a good thing, you are watching important games. That's not a negative! It's like we have shamed people for being casual and now everybody defends themselves when they say they don't watch.

When the point is they still plan to watch in the future, that still counts!
 

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Nah, because it's a different mindset. Getting paid to play the game you love to play is a completely different mindset than getting the bag to secure it all and doing everything to protect the brand. The hard work mantra is different than I can coast and turn it up if needed.

But also the delivery comes off different in these times. They attempt to pass it down the way they were taught. To these kids, it comes off as hating or too aggressive, because they were brought up too coddled. The OGs look at it as not respecting the game that affords them this luxury. On some part, it is also the owners...but it seems that once the mindset has settled in amongst the players, it is too late to change it...without a hard reset.
We cant act like dudes in the past werent tryna to paid. We cant act like every dude in the past was super dedicated. They did what they were told and allowed...just like todays players do.

The issue with the delivery is that it requires both a relationship and having their best interest at heart. Players in the past werent receptive to people that they didnt know and/or that didnt really fukk with them or had agendas. Nobody is. Also cant be obvious hypocritical cap.
 

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As a team owner and organization, if I’m investing 100+ million+ in my star player I’m giving them strategic rest days in order maximize their capabilities to be healthy for a postseason run

It’s in my best interest to protect my investment. Those older players probably would have added some years to their NBA lives if they did the same

This narrative that guys back in the day were more conditioned is hilarious to me tho. No the hell they weren’t
shyt Year 6 MJ was like the first guard to ever lift weights :russ:

There's always so much verifiably untrue shyt being flung in these threads
 

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Is it really the players saying that or is it their organization?

Of course with some lazy cats, but I mean the 70-78 game players.

Also it’s a viscous circle. If your competitor is getting rest to be in the best condition for the playoffs or big games, you will also want to get some rest.

You can’t point to one player in the 90s, when nobody else in the 90s was doing it. Same shyt with super teams.


Another point is stretching one’s career
 

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We cant act like dudes in the past werent tryna to paid. We cant act like every dude in the past was super dedicated. They did what they were told and allowed...just like todays players do.

The issue with the delivery is that it requires both a relationship and having their best interest at heart. Players in the past werent receptive to people that they didnt know and/or that didnt really fukk with them or had agendas. Nobody is. Also cant be obvious hypocritical cap.
Nothing wrong with getting paid. But slot if dudes nowadays don’t put in the work in the offseason, training camp, or even the regular season to be effective. Do they even deserve those ridiculous contracts when they don’t even play a third of the season?
 

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We cant act like dudes in the past werent tryna to paid. We cant act like every dude in the past was super dedicated. They did what they were told and allowed...just like todays players do.

The issue with the delivery is that it requires both a relationship and having their best interest at heart. Players in the past werent receptive to people that they didnt know and/or that didnt really fukk with them or had agendas. Nobody is. Also cant be obvious hypocritical cap.
most people want to get paid. Nothing wrong with that. The problem is players who play only to get paid, not because of the love of the game or/and the desire to be the best,
 

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I think I saw it only mentioned once. But today's players have been playing damn near full seasons, traveling like a professional since their early teenage years with all the AAU circuits, high school basketball and all the tournaments/camps that happen regularly. While this load improves their skillset it can't be good for the body especially when it's not fully developed.

The other issue we have is that players are trying to maximize their contracts and longevity by playing only when it matters. I'm not sure how you'll fix that unless you start changing contracts and placing hard clauses in them directly related to playing time.
 

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most people want to get paid. Nothing wrong with that. The problem is players who play only to get paid, not because of the love of the game or/and the desire to be the best,
Those players have always existed. You will only have more such players as you pay players more. Thats the reality of any high paying, high profile profession:manny:. That said, owners with such a thought process are even more problematic due to the overall influence they have on a franchise and the fact that they cant be benched or cut and the fact that no one wants to ever hold them accountable.
 
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