Lying and Pandering to Black Women is part of Black Culture and it has ruined them.

Wiseborn

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I think “black” folks is still evolving, whatever culture we need develops overtime, we a young group in a young country
We’re slowly evolving into white people.

I don’t expect this to happen enmasse but basically we’re like the Irish we will become “white”. or spicy white over time it will take hundreds of years but when the vast majority of Black Americans look like white people it will be harder to indentify and oppress us individually
 

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Pandering definitely

But idk if this is a bw thing. But in regards to our culture recently, yes. Panderers lie to get you to do something that benefits them but will be to the other persons detriment.

I think Steve Harvey started it to the point where it is now

It’s like telling you what you want to hear just to stroke your ego which makes you feel good which makes you watch more, spend more, etc. See republicans to Donald Trump
 

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We’re slowly evolving into white people.

I don’t expect this to happen enmasse but basically we’re like the Irish we will become “white”. or spicy white over time it will take hundreds of years but when the vast majority of Black Americans look like white people it will be harder to indentify and oppress us individually
Yea I would agree to this to an extent, folks gon be splintered off, and to be honest I’m not sure if majority black folks will want to be Caucasian
 

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We’re close to having this convo and I see Meg and Tory being a vehicle for that… :sas2:
I think we’re a long way off.

Now as far as the Tori situation Male celebrities will be very careful of their dealings with females in general.

It might be somewhat common to see rappers dealing with white women like it kinda is in the NFL
 

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I think initially we lied to them to build them up and make them feel better. Tell them they're all beautiful regardless of size, weight, age or face. Tell them no matter if they're prostitutes and smoke crack, they're still Queens. Telling them regardless of what decisions they make, they deserve the world.

You tell anyone this many lies, they begin to fell infallible and you unable to reel them back into reality. We're at the point now that our women can't take any criticism or critique that's not positive. They deem any nonpraise as bashing and women hate. They rejoice when Kevin Samuel passed bcuz he was giving harsh truth.

They also expect Black men to support and defend all they're actions and demands whether right or wrong. It's almost like a Mother, fatherless son relationship. Black Women thru Black Men under the bus for Kamala Harris.


Personally I think we're to far gone to fix, but we definitely need to stop lying to them so much.
I am sorry you think society lies to Black Women and are telling them they are beautiful & valued no matter what they do?
:comeon:

Are you getting them confused with White Women, because it sounds like you’re talking about White Women?
:patrice:

In fact I know you are talking about White Women.
:hubie:
 

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Most Black people seem to really hate their fathers

also a conversation the Coli isn’t ready to have.



This is true sometimes… sometimes ppl’s dads are no good… but sometimes ppl’s moms run their dads off

Let’s not forget that parents (I’ve seen this more from women) they weaponize the kids. Turn the kids against the father.
 
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I think we’re a long way off.

Now as far as the Tori situation Male celebrities will be very careful of their dealings with females in general.

It might be somewhat common to see rappers dealing with white women like it kinda is in the NFL
Black female celebrities been coming up cause of abusive black men since Tina Turner. Rihanna was a recent example, now Megan.

Black women are quick to support a female musician who is abused by a male celebrity
 

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Lowkey Imma start researching this topic, but I’ve been thinking about researching other “slave groups” and what they do how did they evolve overtime

This is something we should ponder on
This shyt started in slavery.

There was a reason why despite seeing Black people as. animals cacs raped Black people.

No matter what think of the resentment that bred from the rape victims and the people who could not protect them.

During slavery the worst thing you could do was to sell family members down the river. That was the main catalyst for running away a lot of slaves ran to the plantations where they family members were sold.

When slavery ended the first thing most slaves did was search for family members.

The reason why so many took the names of their formaer masters was to indentify themselves to other long lost family members.

Black people were the most married people at the turn of the last century. All the same problems we have now was had then but Black people had more solidarity and resilience then.


Notice how I didn’t blame Black women in none of this?
 
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Pandering means you are trying to gratify an immoral or distasteful desire.

nothing immoral or distasteful about encouraging black woman to see themselves positively.
Encouraging behavior that is filthy and unpleasant is definitely pandering.

**Blsck women twerking in public while we’re trying to eat Belgian waffles and drink mimosas**

Black man: Man let those queens dance, it’s an African art form.
 

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Black female celebrities been coming up cause of abusive black men since Tina Turner. Rihanna was a recent example, now Megan.

Black women are quick to support a female musician who is abused by a male celebrity
I think Black women support celebrities they like whether or not they were abused.

Stats also show that there’s almost a one to one abuse record by police stats saying that Black women are as likely to be accused of abuse as Black Men are.

Looking at Meg herself she had a DV charge years before Tory got his.
 
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