Luther, The BBC Show Thread Season 3

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Alice swag crazy as usual. I guess getting shot with a shottie means nothing to Luther :beli: That niguh though was like the UK version of the Terminator.
 

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just like in real life some things do not get resolved. :manny:

Well yeah, but that's real life. There is no "seasons". There is no "story arc".

When it happens on a TV show, especially one with as many loose ends as they left here, it seems kinda lazy. Because unlike real life they do have the power to resolve things. This was like :yeshrug: "well, it's ep 4, let's just end it". It works fine with minor plot points, like "Pine Barrens" from "The Sopranos"....but not an entire series.

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Alice swag crazy as usual. I guess getting shot with a shottie means nothing to Luther :beli: That niguh though was like the UK version of the Terminator.

he was shot with a handgun.
still though.
 

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Well yeah, but that's real life. There is no "seasons". There is no "story arc".

When it happens on a TV show, especially one with as many loose ends as they left here, it seems kinda lazy. Because unlike real life they do have the power to resolve things. This was like :yeshrug: "well, it's ep 4, let's just end it". It works fine with minor plot points, like "Pine Barrens" from "The Sopranos"....but not an entire series.

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true but everything story wise was resolved that only things left unresolved were the emotional issues it seems. What story points you felt were left hanging?
 

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true but everything story wise was resolved that only things left unresolved were the emotional issues it seems. What story points you felt were left hanging?

The emotional shyt mostly. BBC, Idris Elba, etc. spent all this time talking about "will Luther find redemption, happiness, etc.?" leading up to the season, then it ends exactly the same as the other two seasons. If they hadn't sold this as the last season, and then on top of that spent time saying shyt like that, I'd have less of a problem. Because if you read any of that prior to this, then watched the finale....you have no idea what's going through Luther's head. Or if he'll ever be happy, or a "good" person. He's just walking down the street with Alice, like it's episode 2 or some shyt.

Alice is another hanging plot point. I hate to be blunt, but they should've fukked. I'm not saying they have to fukk, but it makes no narrative sense not to. This show only has a handful of eps, so they don't run the risk of spoiling the anticipation, like "Moonlighting", or "The X-Files".

The only other thing I have a minor problem with is that Stark character. Dude came out of left field hating Luther for basically no reason. I was expecting him to have some kind of ulterior motive, then he died. He was just kind of "generic antagonist", which this show has never done before.

Don't get me wrong I still loved the season but if they're gonna do 4 eps leading into what is potentially the series finale, they needed to pace it a little better.

Obviously if there's a movie and/or an Alice spin-off, disregard everything I said.

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The emotional shyt mostly. BBC, Idris Elba, etc. spent all this time talking about "will Luther find redemption, happiness, etc.?" leading up to the season, then it ends exactly the same as the other two seasons. If they hadn't sold this as the last season, and then on top of that spent time saying shyt like that, I'd have less of a problem. Because if you read any of that prior to this, then watched the finale....you have no idea what's going through Luther's head. Or if he'll ever be happy, or a "good" person. He's just walking down the street with Alice, like it's episode 2 or some shyt.

Alice is another hanging plot point. I hate to be blunt, but they should've fukked. I'm not saying they have to fukk, but it makes no narrative sense not to. This show only has a handful of eps, so they don't run the risk of spoiling the anticipation, like "Moonlighting", or "The X-Files".

The only other thing I have a minor problem with is that Stark character. Dude came out of left field hating Luther for basically no reason. I was expecting him to have some kind of ulterior motive, then he died. He was just kind of "generic antagonist", which this show has never done before.

Don't get me wrong I still loved the season but if they're gonna do 4 eps leading into what is potentially the series finale, they needed to pace it a little better.

Obviously if there's a movie and/or an Alice spin-off, disregard everything I said.

Fred.

Luther and Alice NOT fukking is what made her get filled with those lust demons, the fact that Luther is her intellectual equal as well. Alice is one of the most OG killers in TV. Her and Dexter Morgan woulda had some hellafied body counts as a team. Alice will also never kille Luther because he knows all her moves as well as the fact that Alice knows there is no one who knows her better. They are two sides of the same coin the "perfect detective" and the "perfect murderer", same methods same everything. Even senses of justice only to different degrees. They are a great pair for TV.

I woulda wanted Ripley to kind of take Luther's place as the DCI but its his death that give Luther that last attachment that he needed to lose in order leave with Alice.
 

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The only other thing I have a minor problem with is that Stark character. Dude came out of left field hating Luther for basically no reason. I was expecting him to have some kind of ulterior motive, then he died. He was just kind of "generic antagonist", which this show has never done before.
Yeah, dude just seemed to be a burnt out former ex cop that the black cop got because she wanted to get Luther so bad and then she realized she couldn't control him.

I'm not sure about an Alice spin off. She's cool in doses, or playing off of someone, but a show based around her :ld:
 
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Alice swag crazy as usual. I guess getting shot with a shottie means nothing to Luther :beli: That niguh though was like the UK version of the Terminator.
Somebody already mentioned it but he got shot with the pistol in that scene.

That scene kind of had me watching it like... :patrice: though

So dude pulls out 2 guns on them, they don't have any kind of weapon on them, and they don't get blasted because Alice is recording him? He already killed 1 cop so at that point to me, he's already turned full evil. If it were me and they came in there talking shyt to me without a gun, I would have shot both of them.

:yeshrug:

Then I would have got the camcorder and rerecorded what I wanted to put on the news for the nation to see. I don't remember there being a sloppy scene like that in the previous seasons. And I think that's the first scenario that I could actually say for lack of better words, was "stupid" in all of the episodes from this series.
 

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another great finale...the season 2 finale is still my favorite...this was the only show i anticipated...it was always entertaining and original...i like how it ended [luther throwing away his lucky coat and walking away with alice] so i dont really want a movie.,,but if there is a luther movie it should be like a prequel...a movie with luther and zoe together and luther working a case with origin story of crazy ass alice mixed in...the movie would end where the series started--:whoo:...
 

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Somebody already mentioned it but he got shot with the pistol in that scene.

That scene kind of had me watching it like... :patrice: though

So dude pulls out 2 guns on them, they don't have any kind of weapon on them, and they don't get blasted because Alice is recording him? He already killed 1 cop so at that point to me, he's already turned full evil. If it were me and they came in there talking shyt to me without a gun, I would have shot both of them.

:yeshrug:

Then I would have got the camcorder and rerecorded what I wanted to put on the news for the nation to see. I don't remember there being a sloppy scene like that in the previous seasons. And I think that's the first scenario that I could actually say for lack of better words, was "stupid" in all of the episodes from this series.

Maybe I misunderstood, but I'm pretty sure he was live streaming when Alice grabbed the camera. That's why Luther said "oh, you're gonna show people who you really are now?". If you listen to the little radio/TV chatter between scenes the public started to turn on him after he murked Ripley. Killing Luther and/or Alice live on the internet would've ruined any chance of public sympathy.

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Maybe I misunderstood, but I'm pretty sure he was live streaming when Alice grabbed the camera. That's why Luther said "oh, you're gonna show people who you really are now?". If you listen to the little radio/TV chatter between scenes the public started to turn on him after he murked Ripley. Killing Luther and/or Alice live on the internet would've ruined any chance of public sympathy.

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If he was live streaming then why would he care that Alice took the memory stick? I thought he was recording it and was going to then send it to the news outlets. That's why he went after Alice because he wanted the footage back before it got out there. If he was live streaming it then everybody would have seen that he was pointing that shotty at Luther.
 
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Somebody already mentioned it but he got shot with the pistol in that scene.

That scene kind of had me watching it like... :patrice: though

So dude pulls out 2 guns on them, they don't have any kind of weapon on them, and they don't get blasted because Alice is recording him? He already killed 1 cop so at that point to me, he's already turned full evil. If it were me and they came in there talking shyt to me without a gun, I would have shot both of them.

:yeshrug:

Then I would have got the camcorder and rerecorded what I wanted to put on the news for the nation to see. I don't remember there being a sloppy scene like that in the previous seasons. And I think that's the first scenario that I could actually say for lack of better words, was "stupid" in all of the episodes from this series.


they couldnt end the show with luther and alice getting blasted at that moment...and marwood usually hesitates before shooting someone so it isnt strange that he didnt blast luther the moment he saw him and alice had a bit of leverage because she had the camera on him...
 

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If he was live streaming then why would he care that Alice took the memory stick? I thought he was recording it and was going to then send it to the news outlets. That's why he went after Alice because he wanted the footage back before it got out there. If he was live streaming it then everybody would have seen that he was pointing that shotty at Luther.

Yeah I thought of that. I dunno. I feel like we're missing something. I'll have to watch the scene again in a little while. If this was "Dexter" I would just :manny: because they do this kind of shyt all the time. But "Luther" has never did some shyt like this. Maybe you're right though. I'm gonna go re-watch it.

Fred.
 
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