Lupe Fiasco -Tetsuo & Youth vs Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly

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  • Testsuo & Youth

    Votes: 139 55.6%
  • To Pimp a Butterfly

    Votes: 111 44.4%

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Sankofa Alwayz

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TPAB, truly one of the greatest Hip Hop albums of all time.

T&Y was a dope album, very different too. Even Lupe being the jackass that he is now hasn’t really damaged the quality of the album too much for me :ehh:
 

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TPAB, truly one of the greatest Hip Hop albums of all time.

T&Y was a dope album, very different too. Even Lupe being the jackass that he is now hasn’t really damaged the quality of the album too much for me :ehh:


I really don’t get this. I listen and listen to that album, I went through kendricks catalog last went. I don’t hear it.

please explain why do you think that
 

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I really don’t get this. I listen and listen to that album, I went through kendricks catalog last went. I don’t hear it.

please explain why do you think that

It’s literally Aquemini’s brain child, and that is quite possibly the GOAT Southern Hip Hop album. TPAB is unapologetically West Coast while still being distinctly Kendrick and transcending Blackness and what that means in its various contexts. It dropped at a very perfect time where Black men and women of various ages in this sack of shyt of a country started being gunned down at higher rates, ppl have been gradually becoming aware of the true nature of most of these institutions, and even visibly pointing out things that are celebrated amongst Black folks that have been instrumental to who we are as well things that have been detrimental to ourselves, which prolly explains why a decent amount of ppl didn’t like how “preachy” it came off as (not on no religious tip but they prolly needed to be preached to anyways if they felt a way about it lol). Kendrick even addressed that himself:



I also consider TPAB to be a timeless album too because the subject matter is still relevant to what’s going on today in post-pandemic 2020 for Black folks. Listening to shyt like Institutionalized, Alright, Momma, How Much A Dollar Cost, For Free, etc. have been hitting very different lately :wow:

That song “I” will never get old either. It’s crazy how many ppl were touched by that song despite a lotta ppl being initially cut off guard by the song (I think it was the first single to drop) since GKMC was still fresh for folks. The song is a personal classic for me because it helped reinforced my self-confidence and self-love which I had a long history of struggling with....It came out at the right time too after coming out of my first relationship that ended on very rocky terms. And the music video for it was too fukking beautiful breh :mjcry: This was when I was actually coming into consciousness too, it truly felt like an event when the whole album dropped.

The music production is just phenomenal, especially for this era of Hip Hop. It’s a very musical album....You don’t get that in most Rap albums these days...Hell Imma be honest, musicality is a dying aspect in a lot of music all across the board today, not even just Hip Hop. The heavy presence of various musical styles from African American/AADOS culture such as Funk, Jazz, Spoken Word, Boom Bap, G-Funk, Neo-Soul, and West Coast Hip Hop in addition to elements of traditional Central-West African music....Hip Hop hasn’t seen that level of Pro-Blackness since the early 90’s nor has it seen that level of musicality and sampling (breh even had shyt from The fukking Isley Brothers on there too :damn:) magic since Creator knows how long.

I can definitely understand ppl preferring GKMC over TPAB and that’s okay, I’m not mad at that. Trust me, it took me a few years to decide which one I prefer myself. I absolutely love GKMC and think that is arguably my generation’s greatest Hip Hop album (it was even my very first CD copy I bought after NaS’s Life Is Good) but TPAB touches me even deeper (pause).

It’s like two Kendricks:

The good kid from the hood who had to maneuver around the chaos of growing up in Compton but fukkery is never too far away and carried as much good moments as bad ones that’s forever etched into the kid’s memories and personal character in GKMC

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The good kid bringing both him and his neighborhood homies who never left the hood to get a feel for this Maad City we call Black America, a culturally and spiritually rich nation with its own sets of issues similar to the CPT within a very hostile Cac-ified nation, and see that not just Black America but the whole world whenever Black folks are heavy in is just like Compton and begin the gradual process of truly knowing thyself in TPAB

Or at least that’s how I interpret the albums. It also helps that I’ve grew up being a major Neo-Soul and R&B head before even fukking with Rap music like that lol :manny: Even in saying that, TPAB had to grow on me organically. It was a strange at first listen...Not in a bad way but it was very different from anything I’ve ever heard before. And after going back to Aquemini since a lot of ppl have claimed that Kenny is influenced by OutKast, most especially from the Aquemini era, I can finally understand why :wow:
 

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I’m a fan of Lupe and Kendrick. I like both these albums. I like TPAB more from beginning to end. For what it’s worth, my favorite songs off T&Y are Mural, Prisoner 1&2, and the entire Winter chapter.
 
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pimp a butterfuly is arguably Kendrick's best work. It was a masterpiece. Tetsuo & Youth was the first good project Lupe had since Enemy of the State which came after Food and Liquor. Those two arent comparable at all.
 

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Wow this was a real thread... crazy. I thought it's a thread from today which is a clickbait
 

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Love Kendrick but TPAB is his most overrated work by a country mile to me. Other than Mortal Man, nothing gets replayed on that album for me.

T&Y is a personal classic to me. That’s why I don’t take people serious who say Lupe fell off after Lazers. Getting blackballed and selling less because you don’t have label money anymore isn’t falling off imo.
 
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