Lupe Fiasco - Tetsuo & Youth (Discussion thread)*Stream*

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it didn't even go Gold till what, 96 or so?
Uh....nah. shyt was on everyone's radar for years due to Nas's verse off "Live At The BBQ" and then shyt like "Half Time" leading up to the album. His debut was heavily anticipated, to the point that some people in retrospect cry east coast bias.

Lupe would have a following in the 90's but he'd most likely be Lyricist Lounge status. I doubt he would even be as popular as he is now....the same goes for someone like Kanye, or Kendrick Lamar. They started at basically the perfect time for what they have to offer artistically.

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it didn't even go Gold till what, 96 or so?

There's no way to know that since RIAA doesn't certify anything until it's paid for. You could drop an album in '95, sell 1 mill, and if your label doesn't pay for the certs until 2000 it'll look like it took 5 years to go plat.

That's one of the misconceptions about the RIAA. They don't track records shipped in real time, they never did....I don't even think it would be possible, logistically. Sound Scan would be a more accurate gauge of how much something sold....but that has nothing to do with RIAA certification since they go by what shipped.

Regardless....were you into rap in '94? Nas was everywhere leading up to the release of his album....like I said, to the point that in retrospect some say he was being pushed so hard due to an east coast bias. There's no way you can use "footnote" and "Nas" in the same sentence, especially not around 1994.

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How didn't this make the album?! :wtf::mindblown::damn:


Sinister times, pacific the rims so I live in the mind
Sit in the head of the shyt I design
Position it bent so I sit in recline
But never I sleep

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So not the same like a Jet and a Jeep
One in the clouds, the other up under him running around
Unlike the one never touching the ground
Some like the one cause it doesn't come down
Unlike the oven that's under the town
Lake of the fire, they jump in and drown
Wait till they die it's for something profound

Metaphors for God and the Devil :ohlawd:


Head is so dreaded for clutching the crown
And keeping it steady when jumping around

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I rarely do this but I'm about to throw all these leftovers on my ipod :wow:
 
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Just got through my first listen. I am going to take my time and process what I just heard, but a brief few thoughts five minutes after...

- this is the most aurally pleasing album I have ever heard...if you even want to call it an album. Each song represented a thematic roller coaster with twists and terms and drops and spins, with the only solace being that you knew Lupe was the conductor and he'd keep the cars on track no matter where it went next.

- this album makes the Lupe before Janaury 20th 2015, the man I considered to be the best rapper of all time, look amateurish. I don't known what he became during these studio sessions but there had to be some type of Godly intervention where the Holy spirit took over this man's soul.

- everyone knows I'm a huge fan of the guy so this is going to make me sound like a huge dork, but I am really struggling to find a single flaw in the album from any stand point. Maybe the banjo sounding instrumental at the beginning and the end of Dots and Lines is something I could have done without? I don't know....it was unique and different still.

- the hooks and production are impeccable. Perfection. I get the impression that nobody involved on this product wanted to let Lupe, a man going through torment on his record label, down. They all gave him everything, and in return the table was perfectly set for Lupe to dominate the microphone with nothing hindering his greatness. Reminds me of an all time great player finding the right squad to maximize his ability. Maybe a Kevin Garnett going to the Celtics or a Randy Moss on the 2007 Patriots.

- The density of SONGS - not just mural - but SONGS - on this album makes the likes of Failure and Dumb It Down seem flakey croissant thin. What's beautiful about it is the layers that require multiple listens to fully digest, decipher, and undercover are complimented by the aforementioned production that makes Lupe's challenge not a burden, but an exciting journey you can't wait to continue exploring.

- Lupe knew exactly what he was doing making Deliver the first single. As deep as that song is, it's a little brother in depth compared to a bunch of Shaquille O'neals and Yao Mings. Chopper and Deliver were the "lighter" songs on the album and perfectly sequenced to give your brain a little break to relax itself for the home stretch.

- I felt since 2012 that Good Kid mAAd was the best hip hop album of the decade. I no longer feel that way after hearing this.

- I feel like a kid who just got 12 amazing toys to play with and have no idea which to tackle first so I'm just gonna play with them in the order I received them.

- As incredible as Mural was, nothing after it disappointed. Mural actually stood out as the only song that's just a "This is why I'm better than all of your favorite rappers" while the others are so much more than that. Mural was just Lupe stretching before beginning to paint. And what a beautiful stretch it was. Pause.

- I feel incredibly bad for Joey Bada$$ because while he dropped a fantastic debut, I can no longer go back and listen to his album with any real joy for a long, long time. I don't know if I can listen to any other rap material for a long time after hearing this - old Lupe included.

- My cousin told me when she first heard it (she bumped the leak) that it wasn't just an album, but a piece of art. I thought she was gassing to get me excited. What she really said was an understatement.

I was planning on writing a more formal review, but I'm going to need some time to sort what I just heard out. I'm kinda in a "wtf" mode right now and I don't think I can write my best like this.

Oh one last thing, Lupe said in an interview last night that the seasons were essentially pallet cleansers to reset your taste buds for the next segment. After hearing the album, I completed agreed with and respected his decision. The summer songs felt far more light and playful than the rest of the album. The fall was beautiful yet dark and dreary, and the winter was without remorse and the heaviest material on the album. Brilliant.

I laugh in anticipation of the negativity I'll read, but it comes with the territory. No one and nothing is ever going to be liked by everyone, but I know what I just personally experienced. It's something I've never felt before and it has completely reinvigorated my love for music and inspired me to take my writing abilities to the highest level possible.

Okay I'm out for now.

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F&L is classic breh.

illmatic is the best between both of them. after that I think Lupe takes it with either of his three best then nas best are after that. Adn this is from a huge nas stan.

I do think since lupe dropped his output>>>Nas's tho.
F&L Advance >>>>> Retail by miles
 
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