Lupe Fiasco - Tetsuo & Youth (Discussion thread)*Stream*

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F&L2 being called "trash" is another example of this. That album was far from trash, if it weren't for the pop songs in the middle of that album it would be highly regarded as well.
u the breh but be real

that album was completely forgettable. especially compared to his best 3 or 4 albums (this being one)

"all black everything" from lasers is the only thing i remember from those 2 albums
 

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A bit harsh, but not too far off from how I look at the album. "Pretentiousness" is the most apropos word anyone can use to describe Lupe and his music now. This dude literally makes music that almost patronizes listeners and it's not sonically good enough for him to get away with it. Sometimes I listen to his sh!t and I'm saying to myself "why doesn't this weirdo just fvcking spit"? I sincerely don't see how anyone can listen to his music nowadays and like it to the point where you would even entertain the thought of calling it "genius" or "classic" and some of the other words used by his stans in this thread. Like I said, it's his best effort in a looong time, but nothing special. Cole and Kendrick is showing this generation how to make intelligent, entertaining rap music that's not condescending to it's audience. That's why he can't be a Nas. As highbrow as the GOAT can sometimes get in his music you never felt that he believed he had to show that he's the smartest man in the room or like he thought he was above you. Same with Cole and Kendrick. You don't have to be esoteric and obscure to be supreme lyricists and I feel that is what holds Lupe back from truly being one of the best. All the greats made music that, whether you're a fan of them or not, the general hip hop fans can relate to in some way or another. Lupe fails to do that. At least this new variation of him.

I love how you called the album out for being "pretentious" yet the very next word you used was "apropo." Probably as pretentious and elitist as words can get...:pachaha:

I welcome Lupe's take on life. Its ok to disagree with the message while appreciating the artistry. And this album is definitely a work of art. I haven't enjoyed an album this much since college dropout.
 

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How many flows this nikka got? :banderas:
"Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop
AR-15 with collapsible stock
Picatinny rail with a three-point harness
With 150 round magazine and a dot, ayyy
FMJ’s by the box, nikka
Got the same setup as the SWATs, nikka
Shouldn't find that surprising
Cuz I bought the mothafukka from a cop"
 
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:ld: i usually agree with you on tv shows and find you objective, so i'll keep this is mind while i take my first listen.

Ehhh....I'm not a voice for Hip Hop criticism anymore

No longer my preferred genre. I still listen to the really good albums that drop, I just find them too few and far between. Maybe 2 or 3 a year that I fukk with at most.

Also, I do not find pleasure in songs strictly from the complex lyricism, a lot of people do. The overall sound and structure are most important to me, lyrics can only enhance that important framework. I personally just didn't find the sound here that noteworthy, and I thought more than a couple beats sounded like Soundcloud beat battle stuff that weren't worthy of the lyrics and some of the flows and rhythms were forced and off-putting

I was clearly wrong about "Deliver"....I missed the metaphor at first because he namedropped too many pizza chains and it took me out of the song. I also hadn't heard "T.R.O.N." yet when I wrote that which I think is the best song on the album outside of the 4 Seasons interludes

I still give the album a 7/10. Not like I didn't like it. Just didn't love it. I actually had it in my shopping basket at Target yesterday, but ended up putting it back because I felt like I wouldn't listen to it again after one or two more spins.
 

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:russ: This album will sell first week over 350, 000 less than Cole did first week. The people have spoken :russ:
I doubt 50k copies were shipped. Album isn't even available at my local best buy. Hell it's not even on bestbuy.con
 

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Kendrick had a wonderful 27 month reign as owner of the best rap album of the decade. Salute to young king for keeping the throne warm till Lupe came through on Tuesday and emphatically said "I'll take it from here." :wow:
That will be a very unpopular opinion.
 

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How many flows this nikka got? :banderas:
"Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop
AR-15 with collapsible stock
Picatinny rail with a three-point harness
With 150 round magazine and a dot, ayyy
FMJ’s by the box, nikka
Got the same setup as the SWATs, nikka
Shouldn't find that surprising
Cuz I bought the mothafukka from a cop"

that T.I flow....Lupe:troll:
 
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