Lupe Fiasco “kendrick is not a top tier lyricist to me”

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This is what I feel he’s trying to say but doesnt want to.
People used to run to Rigamortis as the go to track to display Kendrick's lyricism. That nikka said a whole bunch of nothing in that song when he really break down the lyrics but it sounded good.
 

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subject matter, flow, and story-telling ability

He makes good music? More specifically: I like introspective lyricism. Rappers/singers who are able to paint a vivid, emotional picture of not only their own state of mind but show the ability to do it for other people/places as well. Nas comes to mind. Common comes to mind. And Kendrick does too. That "project window" perspective.

I also like narrative and storytelling, which is why Ghostface is in my top 5. Kendrick tells dope stories and understands that doing so has nothing to do with a "this happened and then this happened" framework. Like Ghostface, he creates a world and lets you step in it as he tells the tale. That's something most rappers don't understand, IMO.

GKMC is an amazing concept record with multiple highs, from bangers to shyt like Sing About Me. Speaking of which, that song encompasses everything that makes Kendrick a dope rapper in terms of the introspection and differing perspectives presented.
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Am I gonna say Kendrick is one of the greatest rappers of all time, better than Nas etc like Peter Rosenberg's dikkriding ass? Hell no. But he's dope and nobody is coming close to his catalog right now, with Danny Brown, Vince Staples, and Billy Woods being the closest competition. And maybe Gibbs.

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Metaphorical rap is my favorite style, Ras Kass, Jay-Z, Lupe, Budden, Common, Redman rank really high as lyricist to me

But so does Nas, Pun, and G Rap they're not a metaphorical MCs. So there's multiple ways of being lyrical.

Kendrick just says a lot of things that just sound good but when you break it down doesn't really mean anything.
Kendricks basically just excellent at making concepts, he'll never have many memorable or thought provoking bars. That's how i see it at least
 

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Kendrick is a poet, not a punchline rapper.

Ab >>> Kendrick easily.

But that's if you narrow it down to that style of rap.

You wanna see the disparity between him and soul, look at the lines they had about blacks and juidism..

"I'm an Israelite, don't call me black no mo, that word is only a color, it ain't facts no mo" - Kendrick

"Back to reality, sadly I'm actually Jewish
Or whatever Jew-wish to call me, I don't wanna offend nobody
Just remind em all, that' is-real (it's real), like where the ark of covenant is still" - Ab- Soul
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DWTW > if you in it for the raps instead of just vibes.

That being said, Kendrick's shyt is poetic and I admire him as a writer, but I wouldn't rank him up there as a super complex lyricist, and not because he CAN'T be, that's just not his approach, he's said as much.
 

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Kendricks basically just excellent at making concepts, he'll never have many memorable or thought provoking bars. That's how i see it at least

The last verse of pride touched me, yet I can't really section off a 'bar' or 'quotable' from it...the whole shyt is a poem to me and works great as a piece as opposed to something you could break down line for line.
 

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Kendricks basically just excellent at making concepts, he'll never have many memorable or thought provoking bars. That's how i see it at least
Exactly. And it's not a punchline thing because I can quote individual Big and Nas lines all day and they're not punchline rappers at all
 

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Kendrick diss verse to lupe coming soon

He ain't respond to SLR2, I doubt he responds to this. Kendrick knows what he's doing. If he's really directing traffic with the production like he supposedly is, he's musically inclined enough to not be as intricate with the raps.

Imagine Kendrick EP'ing shyt for somebody like Lupe...:wow:

Same thing with Em...he obviously lost without Dre, he needs musical direction and Kendrick is somebody that could help him with the musicality.
 
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Why some of y'all so up in arms when Kendrick gets criticized? His criticism is fair and imo he wanted to say more but he wasn't trying to start anything.

idk, this is just proof of how good kendrick is... nikkas just cant stop talking about him. lol, i fukk wit it and im here for it
 
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