Lupe Fiasco “kendrick is not a top tier lyricist to me”

[kt773]

Im willing to argue that the streets fukked with more Lupe singles than Kendrick’s in real life. Kick Push, Daydreaming, I Gotcha, Pressure, Sunshine(low key), Hip Hop Saved My Life, Superstar, Paris,Tokyo. Etc etc.

I disagree....a lot my friends don’t fukk with lupe music like I do .....southside Chicago since 85......after his taste in beats went down....so did a lot of loyal fans, while the damn album been all thru my hood tbh

 

[Left.A1]

I think Next 2 It >>>>>>> Humble

....word?

Considering the lanes that they are in. That single was creative and relatable. Atlantic was just done with the dude by the time that came out. If J. Cole or Kendrick put out this song it would have blown up.

Doubt it ...rappers drop rnb singer laced songs everyday ...doesn’t mean it’s going to blow up just because of the combo

We still blaming labels for artist records not blowing up in 2018? With all of the direct to consumer avenues in existence..... word?

Let's say he wrote that for an up and coming rapper with a backpack/hipster fanbase and that's their intro to them as an artist? It would have worked perfectly

It couldn’t even work for himself
Sounds like a whole lot of qualifiers needed too

This also is a great example of Lupe's song making ability. Not everything he drops is overly complex like dudes are trying to say in here.

Lupe is a great song writer from what I’ve seen in his career don’t see why anyone would question that but like I said I don’t believe he could make a banger that works effortlessly into the modern soundscape like Humble ....I mean he tried to do some kind of modern uptempo shyt on his last album and wellllll ......

 

[spliz]

I disagree....a lot my friends don’t fukk with lupe music like I do .....southside Chicago since 85......after his taste in beats went down....so did a lot of loyal fans, while the damn album been all thru my hood tbh

Nah. Aint nothin Kendrick did outside of Swimming Pools was buzzing like some of those Lupe songs early on. If we talking NOW? People bump Kendrick more than Lu. But overall? Im not so sure.

 

[Love Sosa]

Kendrick is the most overrated artist I've ever seen ever.

He's not bad by any means but he ain't the best nor is he up there with the best.

And definitely not top lyricist

 

[Left.A1]

Bro thats the thing. Im a big fan of all of that music. But I think other hip hop artists have made the transition better than Kendrick did.

I mean ok ...that’s fine but how is it difficult to see why people who loved that music would also find tracks like “Complexion” “You ain’t gotta lie” and “Wesley’s Theory” anything less than easy to listen to when those pieces of music so heavily lean on those influences?

 

[GoldenGlove]

....word?


Doubt it ...rappers drop rnb singer laced songs everyday ...doesn’t mean it’s going to blow up just because of the combo

We still blaming labels for artist records not blowing up in 2018? With all of the direct to consumer avenues in existence..... word?




It couldn’t even work for himself
Sounds like a whole lot of qualifiers needed too



Lupe is a great song writer from what I’ve seen in his career don’t see why anyone would question that but like I said I don’t believe he could make a banger that works effortlessly into the modern soundscape like Humble ....I mean he tried to do some kind of modern uptempo shyt on his last album and wellllll ......

Humble's success had a lot to do with the visual that dropped along with it. I don't think it's a better song or single than Next 2 It. Humble IMO is one of Kendrick's worse songs he's put out

 

[Left.A1]

Elzhi
Ka
Los
Crooked I
Skyzoo
Royce Da 5'9"
The Black Opera (Both rappers in the Duo are stupidly nice...)
Killah Priest
Jay Elect
Ab-Soul
there's a couple I could think of off the top of my head that'd give
Lupe a run for his money any day of the week however on
The Coli Lupe is often treated like the only rapper who has bars
or tries to make "albums".

And if we move the criteria to bodies of work and not singular displays
of brilliance, Lupe gets moved further down IMO.
He isn't the only one to drop a good album or two or three since 2005.

Has Lupe ever battled or sent shots at anyone?

 

[Insensitive]

I tip my hat to Kendrick for having the machine behind him and churning out great albums.

With Lupe however, he had tension and label struggles since F&L and Kick Push dropped. The label didn't want Kick Push to even be a single, it was his mans Chilly that put the bread up and started getting that shyt in rotation... then the label had to just fall back and said fukk it at that point. So while Lupe's first 2 albums were dope and had accessible songs/singles on them, the beef between what he wanted to do and what Atlantic wanted him to do had already been in motion.

He felt like he already showed them that he knew what his fans and hiphop heads wanted after a Grammy and 2 great successful projects under his belt... so the Lasers situation was just all types of bizarre because they tried to sign him to a 360 and they were trying to spoon food him songs that were constructed for him, he just wasn't with it.

The lasers situation wasn't that bizarre when you think about it.
Here is Lupe fiasco a rapper who by the time drake, kendrick and J. Cole and so on were
getting on and doing their thing had already sold hundreds of thousands of records.
His label however saw what The Cool did and what F&L did and they thought
they could do better.

He didn't want their interference in his work and decided he knew what was best.
And because of that with each release his numbers trended downwards as his
new competition continued to sell well and not just "well enough" but exceptionally
well.

TPAB and DAMN are far apart musically. TPAB is far more jazzy and funk inspired when it comes to the instrumentation and sound. He revved up the spoken word, the message he wanted to convey... and that took priority over melodies and harmonies. Just compare the first singles for both... i vs Humble, it's clear that the direction was vastly different sonically. Then you have songs like Love, God, Element, DNA... I could keep going, but DAMN doesn't sound anything like TPAB, which is a good thing, I fukk with DAMN

TPAB has ONE Funk song inspired song and that's King Kunta.
Now I don't know how often you listen to funk breh but Jazz, Jazz-Funk, Funk, R&B, Neo-Soul
and Jazz/Neo-Soul flavored Hip-Hop is about all I listen to these days and there isn't much
Funk on TPAB, it's more Jazz than anything and really it's more R&B and Hip-Hop than Jazz.

"Jazzy" is an accurate description because it isn't JAZZ but borrows heavily from how Jazz
views harmony (regularly changing keys, lots of extensions, and there's one free jazz/hard bop
song on the album "for free?")

It has more in line with what The Roots,Pete Rock and J. Dilla are doing and less with Herbie
Hancock or The Blackbyrds or Grover Washington and so on are about.
Damn calls back to that a few times, I don't know how well your ears are or how much music
you listen outside of Hip-Hop but I definitely want to make it clear TPAB is about as much a Jazz
album as RUN-DMC's "King of Rock" is a hard rock album.

And the music is different "i" is an isley brother's sample (Soul/R&B not Jazz....) that was largely
unchanged, "HUMBLE" that has practically no samples and was made by a Hip-Hop producer.

There's a difference between the albums no doubt but they share more than they don't.

Has Lupe ever battled or sent shots at anyone?

Outside of twitter and street fighter, I don't think Lupe has ever been in an actual battle that the public
has witnessed.

 

[Chip Skylark]

Honestly I think Mike Will should'e gave the humble beat to Gucci like he wanted and it would've been a better song than humble..

Just like I prefer 2chainz dna freestyle more than the song..

 

[Dak Pickscott]

whats a dope street conscious lupe fiasco record?

 

[NoHalfWay]

I disagree....a lot my friends don’t fukk with lupe music like I do .....southside Chicago since 85......after his taste in beats went down....so did a lot of loyal fans, while the damn album been all thru my hood tbh

Then how does an ignorant lil Philly nikka from the streets like Meek Mill get exposed to an album like Food & Liquor and is able to connect with it?

Still haven’t got an answer for that. Nobody listens to Lupe outside the internet, right?

 

[Left.A1]

Humble's success had a lot to do with the visual that dropped along with it. I don't think it's a better song or single than Next 2 It. Humble IMO is one of Kendrick's worse songs he's put out

Blame it on the rain doggie

 

[NoHalfWay]

whats a dope street conscious lupe fiasco record?

Let Coli nikkas tell it Lupe isn’t a poet. He just spits entendres every record.

 

[Chip Skylark]

Let Coli nikkas tell it Lupe isn’t a poet. He just spits entendres every record.

Let's flip it



Wasalu is a different type of beast

 

[boskey]

I gave you a dap because I feel the gist of where you are going but bruuuuhhhh nothing on F&L or The Cool was as good as Poetic Justice? ......Poetic Justice??




What would lead you to say that fam??

“The Coolest” alone is as good as most of those tracks not even to mention “American Terrorist” which is for sure just as good if it better from a technical conceptual execution stand point as anything Kendrick has ever done

You don’t have to like Poetic Justice but it’s an iconic song in Kendrick’s catalog. Lupe doesn’t have many of those and Kendrick has several...