Lupe Fiasco “kendrick is not a top tier lyricist to me”

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I guess you don't know what the word albums and across multiple genres mean if you gonna list other best albums of all time and then say is it better...which kinda implies there is only one album of all time...

And just because YOU don't recognize it doesn't mean it's not considered the best...

Good Kid Mad City and To Pimp a Butterfly....especially To Pimp a Butterfly is universally recognized as one of the greatest albums of all time...

I am not even a Kendrick stan...but he's making the best Hip Hop music of this generation and I ain't stupid enough to argue against that...
i'm gonna help you out. In the future if you want to big up Kendrick, dont ever say that again cuz this is by far the worst era of hip hop music as a whole ever. That's like saying "Jamal Mcglore made the all star team" when centers were trash in his era.
 

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Superstar went plat in the streams so somebody is listening to him.
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Superstar had pop leanings and was palatable to people who usually don't consume rap music. That's why it sold like it did. Not hating, I like the song.

nikka he punked out Mos def out of battling that speaks alot and is something to behold as much as him actually destroying someone.

And recently u can say his text battle with Daylyt. Many I have seen say he won

:russ: fukk outta here. He not getting stripes for a washed up rapper avoiding him and a fukking "text battle". fukk is wrong wit y'all?
 

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Jay-Z and Eminem are not considered punchline rappers. Maybe some considered or still consider Em a battle rapper because of his background in battle rap but he isn't considered a punchline rapper. Big L, Fab, Banks...those dudes are considered punchline rappers.

Bruh...if you listen to any Eminem album, they are dropping bars and punchlines

Any Jay Z album, he's dropping bars and punchlines...

A punchline rapper is any rapper that relies on punchlines or metaphors or entendres

The reason why BIG L, Fab and Banks are considered punchline rappers is because that's considered that's all they do...and they ain't that successful compared to a Jay Z or an Eminem...so they are in the "punchline rapper" box

But ask anybody what makes Em or Jay Z one of the best rappers...they are gonna include their bars...

Even the detractors of Kendrick Lamar will say he has no bars...because Kendrick doesn't utilize punchlines or entendres or metaphors

Ice Cube is another great artist that didn't have "bars" like that...but he had great storytelling and concepts like Kendrick...

To say Jay Z and Eminem aren't punchline rappers is kinda crazy because that's majority of the reason they are considered better than someone like Ice Cube...
 

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If opponents are shying away ...what does that tell you ?

Shows me nikkas don't give a fukk about him. Not giving weirdo boy stripes cause a couple dudes didn't wanna play with his weirdo ass.


Your attempt at sarcasm was terrible. Next time try watching British comedy or something

You care way too much about "the streets" and "people outside". If you don't like Lupe then so be it.

Who needs external validation to justify their own taste except highschool kids ?

External validation is important here call y'all nikkas oh so fukking looooooooooove to state how much nobody can quote Kendrick. It's important for y'all to understand that outside this Coli world NOBODY can quote Lupe without having to Google some shyt. And you know I'm not lying. More people know Kendrick rhymes than Lupe's.
 

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Kendrick's #1 bots on The Coli in shambles and combing this thread for new ways to spin Kendrick's goatness :mjlol:

Rocky (imma get hate for this but:yeshrug:)
Drake
Cole

when it come to straight rapping all 3 of them got more bars than KDot...

damn right you are. Posters are :angry: And especially putting that out there on the first page.

SirBiatch stalkers ready to commit that because others think Rocky is dope and they wish it were only SirBiatch who thought so

he isn't. I swear i listen to his shyt and TRY to like it cuz at one point, I thought it was just me. I thought I was the only hip hop fan in amerikka who though this guy was severely overrated. I listen to a song like this and wonder why everyone think it's one of the greatest things ever and I don't.


but then I realized that Aftermath was behind him


Nah, it's definitely not just you. Most are too scared to speak up.

I've been the most vocal Kendrick questioner on this entire board, and maybe across all rap forums. From the moment I started posting. I have classic threads asking Kendrick stans for quotables, meaningful explanations on why they love his music, and they always lash out. I've earned a Coli lifetime of stalkers based off shytting on Ducktales :laugh:

I made this thread almost 3 years ago:
Kendrick has never said anything impressive

Kendrick is trash. Always has been. But by the time people figure it out, there will be a new nikka/cac to dikkride. Might even be another Interscope artist.

he doesnt. Everyone says he's so nice. He's better than Rakim, G rap, Kane, Big Pun, etc, but NOBODY every quotes this dude. How is the best mc of all time unquenchable?

Because he's obviously not a good writer and never has been. Even the so-called 'stories' Kendrick stans praise him for are meaningless, vague and trite. He's a kiddie, pop rapper.

Lupe is a weird cat to me. And im a fan of the nikka. Its like dude has “mental revelations” every other year that makes him smarter than everyone else. nikka has literally dikkrode IWW for the whole first half of his career and for him to just say “no” without even explaining why he changed his stance is another window into how pretentious dude can be.

Lu's always been a pretentious idiot. Anyone who says IWW > Illmatic is an idiot (or really naive) off-tip. The quality gap is so obvious.
 

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i'm gonna help you out. In the future if you want to big up Kendrick, dont ever say that again cuz this is by far the worst era of hip hop music as a whole ever. That's like saying "Jamal Mcglore made the all star team" when centers were trash in his era.

No it's not...

This era of Hip Hop is probably the most diverse...you can just enjoy just one segment of Hip Hop and never even pay attention to the mainstream...

2000s was easily the shyttiest era of Hip Hop, the beats sounded like shyt, rapping was shytty, everything was centralized in fukking New York, everybody was trying to be a super thug....

It was trash...

Then Kanye West came...and ushered in a new era...and musicality came back and then innovation within the genre came back...and Hip Hop became decentralized...
 

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I guess you don't know what the word albums and across multiple genres mean if you gonna list other best albums of all time and then say is it better...which kinda implies there is only one album of all time...

And just because YOU don't recognize it doesn't mean it's not considered the best...

Good Kid Mad City and To Pimp a Butterfly....especially To Pimp a Butterfly is universally recognized as one of the greatest albums of all time...

I am not even a Kendrick stan...but he's making the best Hip Hop music of this generation and I ain't stupid enough to argue against that...

Return of 4eva and live love asap> section 80
R.a.p music > gkmc
Tetsuo and Youth > tpab
444 > damn

There is always other artists who make better music than him when he drops..
 

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Superstar had pop leanings and was palatable to people who usually don't consume rap music. That's why it sold like it did. Not hating, I like the song.



:russ: fukk outta here. He not getting stripes for a washed up rapper avoiding him and a fukking "text battle". fukk is wrong wit y'all?
@first part:yeah sure whatever. Fact of the matter is someone listening to him. I just gave an example via SS plat people still listen to him to answer ur statement that he is not heard outside the coli

@Bolded lol at this detracting. Bet if K.dot did this u would be using in ur essays you been writing in here on why Lupe don't want it with Kendrick:Mjparadise:


@underline Lu hasn't really been in any battles. So:manny:. Blame the rappers who don't want to go at him.(Ya boy Ken sure didn't:lolbron:)
 

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To say Jay Z and Eminem aren't punchline rappers is kinda crazy because that's majority of the reason they are considered better than someone like Ice Cube...

Ok, you can stop. You got it, bro. That's all I needed to read.
 

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Shows me nikkas don't give a fukk about him. Not giving weirdo boy stripes cause a couple dudes didn't wanna play with his weirdo ass.

Or they are scared of getting washed... He's in the same vein as Black Thought



External validation is important here call y'all nikkas oh so fukking looooooooooove to state how much nobody can quote Kendrick. It's important for y'all to understand that outside this Coli world NOBODY can quote Lupe without having to Google some shyt. And you know I'm not lying. More people know Kendrick rhymes than Lupe's.

It might be important to you but not me. I actually like Kendrick but compared to other mainstream artists
quotables aren't his strong point. Lupe already covered this in the 2000s

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Because Kendrick makes better music...

I mean if you wanna hear quotables there's something called Battle Rap...

Can anybody quote damn Tupac song...

Or an Ice Cube song...

Or Ghostface...

Or Andre 3000

Or Scarface...

You can count on your hand how many rappers got actual quotables that everybody recognizes when you say it...
ok first of all, we not talking about albums, we talking about lyrics and why he's the best rapper of all time. His albums are pretty dope, but we aint talking about that. Group Home, Too short, and ODB made great albums and they have no lyrics. Kendrick has decent lyrics, he aint wack, but stop trying to spin shyt. We aint saying dude needs to be the 2nd coming of Rakim, or just a whole album of quotable shyt, but he has hardly any quotables . As for what you asked:

2pac: my mama can quote 2pac. anyone that claims they can is a goddamn liar. foh haha

scarface: if you put "mind playign tricks on me" on at a party and people aren't quoting the lyrics, you're in the wrong place

ice cube??? did you just ask that silly azz shyt? ice cube? fukk the police? no vaseline? today was a good day? wtf son

ghostface: what subject? what song? Ice cream? st ides(commercial that was on tv every day during rap city breaks), hip hop heads know. Ghost isn't a favorite among the kendrick fans(hippie white folks and young black kids that think KL is the first conscious rapper)

andre 3k : do you not remember about 10 years ago 3k in that kilt killing the UKG song? "elevators", " summer rolls around nikkas holla bout change/ then they steady move them keys like Bob James". . I don't think 3k is top 5 all time but he's bad man. that mf bad.


if you dont know any quotes from the legends you posted, then the problem is that you just don't know shyt about hip hop and if you want to talk hip hop with me, you got to know it. Now I don't know everything, but I know a LOT. I'm over 30+ years strong into hip hop.
 

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Return of 4eva and live love asap> section 80
R.a.p music > gkmc
Tetsuo and Youth > tpab
444 > damn

There is always other artists who make better music than him when he drops..

GKMC, Tetsuo and Youth and DAMN is better than all of those projects....
 
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