Lupe Fiasco Goes On Twitter Rant Against "Uppity Black Ni--as,"

[Type Username Here]

It's that simple. fukk I look like waking up early on my born day to vote for these fukking clowns?

I'm not telling you how to vote, but it would help if you contributed your vote to a third party candidate. We have to break the shackles of the two party system, and that is the only way. I know it seems impossible, but it has happened in other countries, even in modern times.

The youth in various European countries formed their own parties, and in some countries they have taken a decent share of the voting.

Don't let the Democrats/Republicans and other push "Oh, you're wasting your vote on someone who could never win" shyt. It's a self-defeating mentality.

Reconsider your position please, we could use your vote to send a message. It may be a small drop in the bucket, but we can build on it so hopefully our children doesn't have to deal with this oligarchy.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

I'm not telling you how to vote, but it would help if you contributed your vote to a third party candidate. We have to break the shackles of the two party system, and that is the only way. I know it seems impossible, but it has happened in other countries, even in modern times.

The youth in various European countries formed their own parties, and in some countries they have taken a decent share of the voting.

Don't let the Democrats/Republicans and other push "Oh, you're wasting your vote on someone who could never win" shyt. It's a self-defeating mentality.

Reconsider your position please, we could use your vote to send a message. It may be a small drop in the bucket, but we can build on it so hopefully our children doesn't have to deal with this oligarchy.

You know what breh, you're right....I'll consider voting for a third party candidate.

 

[Type Username Here]

You know what breh, you're right....I'll consider voting for a third party candidate.

Thank you. The more people we can convince the better hope the future has. We may not reap the benefit, but hopefully our children and grand children can.

There are fed up people all over this country, the MAJORITY of the voting public does NOT vote. If we can mobilize them, I feel, maybe naively so, that we can make change somewhere down the line.

We live in the world of the viral. Look at that KONY2012 stunt. You saw how many people bought that kit or pressured their local politicians over a youtube video?

Why can't we start a Third Party Viral movement somewhere down the line?

 

[No1]

I'm not telling you how to vote, but it would help if you contributed your vote to a third party candidate. We have to break the shackles of the two party system, and that is the only way. I know it seems impossible, but it has happened in other countries, even in modern times.

The youth in various European countries formed their own parties, and in some countries they have taken a decent share of the voting.

Don't let the Democrats/Republicans and other push "Oh, you're wasting your vote on someone who could never win" shyt. It's a self-defeating mentality.

Reconsider your position please, we could use your vote to send a message. It may be a small drop in the bucket, but we can build on it so hopefully our children doesn't have to deal with this oligarchy.

You know what breh, you're right....I'll consider voting for a third party candidate.

Look, I myself have voted for third party candidates at the local level, but rooting for them at the presidential level right now is just not a good idea. Particularly, during an election like this. Like I said, I can see having this mentality in 2000, but right now there is a clear distinction between the two parties on MAJOR issues. I will be voting for third party candidates at the local level and I would even do it at the state-wide level if legitimate representatives popped up, but at the presidential level? No, you take what is going to best suit your interests. If you truly believe that there won't be significant change from either party, but you know that there are certain issues one party supports that more clearly match your interests, I think it's clear who you should vote for.

Otherwise, you're essentially throwing a hissy fit and voting against your own interests at the national level because your third party candidate is not going to get enough traction to mean anything. As far as what TUH is saying, I really do hate how you post in generalities and sit on abstract principles. It's admirable in a way, but naive in practice. It's like when Gibbs talked about the "professional left" that is all or nothing. You have a guy in TUH that clearly supports more democratic policies than he doesn't but based on a handful of issues (which the other party would be worse on) he's telling you to go vote for a 3rd party.

If everyone listened to him then a bunch of people would've voted for Kucinich and Palin would be our vice president and we would've authorized bombing Iran by now. Moreover, he references European countries which have an entirely different system of democracy. Voting completely for a third party candidate there is different because then the other parties will work with you because they need a majority coalition. This isn't Europe where 25% of you voting for a party = 25 of the total seats. It's just poor long-term strategy. If you left it up to guys like TUH, black people should not have voted for the Democratic Party because of their role in the Vietnam war.

MLK told people to go vote, WHILE protesting the Vietnam War. You cannot take an absolutist notion to politics in a pluralist society. Moreover, all these "disillusioned" people are not necessarily a coherent mass nor would they make up a coherent party. The seeds aren't even there for a legitimate third party right now because there isn't a clear group to draw it from. This isn't the populist movements of the past, this isn't William Jennings.

His idealism seldom tempers itself with pragmatism and efficacy. The Tea Party just showed you how to change the debate within your party, you don't take your ball and go home.

 

[Loose]

I will start off by saying I don’t agree with his notion of not voting, but it is sad to think of how complacent and horrified the black community has became about speaking out about their respective views. Lupe has the right to voice his views, especially considering ALL of them are legit concerns any African American should be upset about. 5,000 People have been shot dead in Chicago since 2001; yes that number more than doubles the amount dead in fukking Afghanistan. Our/his people are still living in absolute poverty, what has voting done to improve upon our stature in society? I'll answer it nothing at all, some inner-cities school districts are just as impoverished as well as uneducated as 3rd world countries that we seem to care more about. You nikkas really think voting is going to change something? The same voting that did not replace majority of the people responsible for gearing us towards the last financial crisis? yea let's vote for change it does wonders ask ben bernanke about that. Personally I still have absolute faith with voting locally even without change..... And you want to know what has happened for my people besides CLOSING basketball courts and community centers? Nothing at all.


But hey just vote because it’s the lesser of two evils who gives a fukk about how either side effects us. Let’s just vote blindly as usual, stupid non uppity nikkas

 

[The Real]

One of the reasons why it seems like nothing is done in the black community is because democrats know they have the black vote wrapped up regardless. Are you guys comfortable with that?

Look at the Jews, yeah, they traditionally vote democratic, but one of the reasons they are still catered to is because they are seen as fickle voters that could change their minds on some spur of the moment type shyt. Even Latino's get a certain amount of respect. Not so with black folk...and the problem is compounded now that we have a black President. If the threat of black folks staying home on election day were real, they would receive a lot more attention from these candidates....instead the only time Obama addresses the black community is when he dishes out "hard truths," and scolds them....and people soak that shyt up shyt is comical. But y'all support that, apparently.

Real talk, in the 4 years that Obama has been President, have things really improved all that much from Bush? I'm talking about tangible improvements that we can FEEL and testify to. I say NOPE. When Bush took over after Clinton, whether you agrees with the direction or not, none of us could deny that the country indeed CHANGED. Obama has been completely ineffective and invisible. He gets by based solely off his image, "swag," and racial identity. So how much of a disaster would it be if Obama were to lose this election really? I say not much. The problem with you dudes is that you let MSNBC and liberal entertainers/quasi-analysts dictate your mindset....y'all are no worse than the zombies and cacs who swear by FoxNews. I voted for Obama 4 years ago, I see that he has been more than underwhelming and that Romney is an idiot so I'm staying home this time. It's that simple. fukk I look like waking up early on my born day to vote for these fukking clowns?

These aren't invalid concerns, but once again, they have nothing to do with Lupe's ignorant and sloppy ranting and whether or not one should vote at all. I don't know why yall feel so comfortable siding with him when none of you are saying what he said. There also seems to be this assumption that the people criticizing him are all Obama stans who are attacking him based solely on their support for the president, which is not true and not the core of this debate at all.

 

[Loose]

These aren't invalid points, but once again, they have nothing to do with Lupe's ignorant and sloppy ranting and whether or not one should vote at all. I don't know why yall feel so comfortable siding with him when none of you are saying what he said.

How do you know his views on why voting is useless , all he did was tweet a few 140 character tweets im sure he has more justifiable reasons.

 

[OsO]

I'm not telling you how to vote, but it would help if you contributed your vote to a third party candidate. We have to break the shackles of the two party system, and that is the only way. I know it seems impossible, but it has happened in other countries, even in modern times.

The youth in various European countries formed their own parties, and in some countries they have taken a decent share of the voting.

Don't let the Democrats/Republicans and other push "Oh, you're wasting your vote on someone who could never win" shyt. It's a self-defeating mentality.

Reconsider your position please, we could use your vote to send a message. It may be a small drop in the bucket, but we can build on it so hopefully our children doesn't have to deal with this oligarchy.

type feel me on this.

we dont have to engage in the traditional political mechanisms to get things done. the government works for US THE PEOPLE, and if we are dissatisfied with its operation then we can replace it as we see fit WITH NO DUE PROCESS, PROCEDURE, OR ELECTION.

granted it takes a lot of solidarity amongst the people to make that happen, but the point is it's within our power if we get properly organized and focused.

its like trying to use a pick and hammer to break through a cement wall when you got a fukking bazooka at the crib. naga stop fukking around with that weak shyt and get that bazooka and handle fukking business!

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

 

[No1]

I will start off by saying I don’t agree with his notion of not voting, but it is sad to think of how complacent and horrified the black community has became about speaking out about their respective views. Lupe has the right to voice his views, especially considering ALL of them are legit concerns any African American should be upset about. 5,000 People have been shot dead in Chicago since 2001; yes that number more than doubles the amount dead in fukking Afghanistan. Our/his people are still living in absolute poverty, what has voting done to improve upon our stature in society? I'll answer it nothing at all, some inner-cities school districts are just as impoverished as well as uneducated as 3rd world countries that we seem to care more about. You nikkas really think voting is going to do something? Personally I vote locally all the time..... And you want to know what has happened for my people besides CLOSING basketball courts and community centers? Nothing at all.


But hey just vote because it’s the lesser of two evils who gives a fukk about how either side effects us. Let’s just vote blindly as usual, stupid non uppity nikkas

No one in the black community is afraid to voice their concerns. I don't know where you get this notion from. Maybe with entertainers, but in general, you're talking nonsense. This is probably why you're a Lupe stan, you both argue with this style of answering questions and responding to shyt in a roundabout, indirect, far from nuanced manner, driven more by visceral reaction than actual analysis. Do you guys think you're original? Do you think that you're special or that every black person doesn't have relatives that talk, think and act like you guys?

It's not just voting, it's myriad things that go into reform. Voting is one of the most important ones, you can't protest people and expect them to be responsive if you are not a part of their winning coalition. You cannot be a passive participant in the political process. You cannot vote and then think that's it. Why do people always back down to the elderly? They vote in droves and they're active (right or wrong in their beliefs). Look at who the people are at those town hall meetings. Elect your candidates and then hold them to the fire. The problem is people settling for mediocrity in the first place and assuming the status quo is the best that they can get.

People who do vote and who abstain both have that same perception.

 

[No1]

How do you know his views on why voting is useless , all he did was tweet a few 140 character tweets im sure he has more justifiable reasons.

He has voiced his opinion on numerous occasions. If you posted in here more then you would realize that this isn't the first time he's said some stupid shyt. I thought you were coming in here defending everything he has said in the past when I first posted. You don't even realize his train of inconsistencies. Nevermind, go google up.

 

[theworldismine13]

I'll say this, I think there has been a miscommunication about what voting and democracy is, the fundamental purpose of voting is so that the people can choose their own leaders

That is what makes it great and what makes it important in terms of human history, if you find a better way of choosing leaders please share it with us

the fact that black people are in jail or beng murdered is not a counter argument to voting, voting simply means you get the chance to decide, it doesn't mean everything is gonna be alright

What people don't get is that voting and democracy is more than just going to the voting booth, voting and democracy are suppose to be a culture of civil engagement, where people participate in city council meeting, state legislatures and jury duty

what i find stupid about the not voting thing is people acting like voting is just about voting for president, voting is way deeper than voting for president or obama, if you don't vote for the presidency you should at least find out about local issues and vote for your local city council and mayor, local officials can have a bigger impact than the president on a citizen

 

[OsO]

These aren't invalid concerns, but once again, they have nothing to do with Lupe's ignorant and sloppy ranting and whether or not one should vote at all. I don't know why yall feel so comfortable siding with him when none of you are saying what he said. There also seems to be this assumption that the people criticizing him are all Obama stans who are attacking him based solely on their support for the president, which is not true and not the core of this debate at all.

because to some people, not all people, but some people, by voting for a candidate you are essentially saying "i support what this person is doing and i think they're doing a good job, and i want them to continue."

lupe is one of those. so if lupe does not want to co-sign what the obama administration is doing then he has every right to do so. because lupe is right in that the obama administration is responsible for many terrible atrocities in the world, is he wrong?

and im there with lupe. i dont advocate voting in this prez election because i dont cosign what ANY of these criminals are doing. i morally cannot comply with their terrible violation of human rights across the globe and here domestically.

but in balance with that, if i felt that obama had a chance to lose this election i would switch into the "pick the lesser of two evils" mode because if romney gets the helm we are headed for mad max beyond thunderdome. but if someone doesnt agree in PRINCIPLE with the lesser of two evils argument then you cant knock em for that.

so you gotta respect lupe's choice not to participate in any of the fukkery on general principle, but especially because he has the morally superior position.

 

[theworldismine13]

because to some people, not all people, but some people, by voting for a candidate you are essentially saying "i support what this person is doing and i think they're doing a good job, and i want them to continue."

lupe is one of those. so if lupe does not want to co-sign what the obama administration is doing then he has every right to do so. because lupe is right in that the obama administration is responsible for many terrible atrocities in the world, is he wrong?

and im there with lupe. i dont advocate voting in this prez election because i dont cosign what ANY of these criminals are doing. i morally cannot comply with their terrible violation of human rights across the globe and here domestically.

but in balance with that, if i felt that obama had a chance to lose this election i would switch into the "pick the lesser of two evils" mode because if romney gets the helm we are headed for mad max beyond thunderdome. but if someone doesnt agree in PRINCIPLE with the lesser of two evils argument then you cant knock em for that.

so you gotta respect lupe's choice not to participate in any of the fukkery on general principle, but especially because he has the morally superior position.

that's a bullshyt excuse because there are about a dozen third parties to choose from and also there are plenty of local issues and candidates to vote for

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

wrong again.

i said that voting was not the main platform of the black panthers, and it wasnt, not even close. when it came to their energy output, organizing around voting initiatives was very low on the priority list.

please stop trying to interpret my posts because its obvious you have reading comprehension issues.

You are like a little child. You really are. You ALWAYS do this shyt.

1. Post factually false information.

2. Get called out and proven wrong.

3. Say you meant something different than what you actually typed and tell the person who proved you wrong they have reading comprehension issues, or some other insult instead of just admitting were you wrong.

I'll pull up the quotes.

No serious social activist or revolutionary in American history that got shyt accomplished ever adopted this idiotic, retarded, apathetic, downright stupid position of "fukk the evil system, don't vote" position you're taking. This a phenomena unique to this current generation of lazy youtube activist bums.

Black Panther Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

public education strikes again ... black people who dont know their history

go watch hidden colors again sleep&eat

The Black Panthers registered people to vote, and made it a part of the activities. Huey Newton urged black to register to vote so they can take part in juries. Bobby Seale ran for Mayor Oakland, so obviously he wanted people to vote.

You pointed them out as an example that of activists who did not advocate voting. If you want to say they didn't see voting as a primarily important tactic, you're right, but you did not say that.

You were wrong, no ifs, ands, and buts. You are unbelievable. Why can't you just admit you were wrong, or at least you mis-typed and said something you didn't mean instead of accusing me of lack of reading comprehension when all I did was take exactly what you said word for word for what it is?

 

[Loose]

No one in the black community is afraid to voice their concerns. I don't know where you get this notion from. Maybe with entertainers, but in general, you're talking nonsense. This is probably why you're a Lupe stan, you both argue with this smart-dumb nikka style of answering questions and responding to shyt in a roundabout, indirect, far from nuanced manner, driven more by visceral reaction than actual analysis. Do you guys think you're original? Do you think that you're special or that every black person doesn't have relatives that talk, think and act like you guys?

It's not just voting, it's myriad things that go into reform. Voting is one of the most important ones, you can't protest people and expect them to be responsive if you are not a part of their winning coalition. You cannot be a passive participant in the political process. You cannot vote and then think that's it. Why do people always back down to the elderly, they vote in droves and they're active (right or wrong in their beliefs). Elect your candidates and then hold them to the fire. The problem is people settling for mediocrity in the first place and assuming the status quo is the best that they can get.

People who do vote and who abstain both have that same perception.

So where is the community activism from the black community that is on a much broader level ala MLK, Black Panther party, hell even the million man march. Oh wait I forgot we got the new Black Panther party to handle all of our social issues . Entertainers nowadays are the people with the power as well as with the voice, they have gained the stature to become our children’s role-models(even though not willingly). They should be the ones voicing their opinions about the misconceptions as well as harsh issues our inner-city youth face; instead they're complacent with mediocrity which allows them to continue being fed out of the white man’s pockets.

I'm not even going to respond to your last paragraph correctly because it fails to mention issues that we have no control over whats so ever regardless of being passive participants in the political process.from an theoretical economic view we have no control over any economical policy's that often plague our communities as well as our country.