Lupe Fiasco deserves to be in the Top 10 discussion right now

[Umi]

My son says Lupe definitely deserves to be in Top 10.

AND MY SON IS ONE OF THE GREATEST RAPPER/SINGER/ACTOR/FASHIONISTA COMBO OF ALL TIME! OF ALL TIME!

 

[feelosofer]

I dont understand what in the hell the native tongues have to do with this thread nor do i think lupe actually grew up on them at all. even before the little issues they had he always said he grew up on Crucial Conflict, do or die,E.C. Illa, 8 ball Mjg , Nas, Jay, and too short. have he heard they music? probably but i doubt they had any major influence on his style especially going by his earlier material.

I was really talking about his floundering, after he dropped the ball on what was supposed to be a tribute, and Native Tongues absolutely set the stage for dudes like him to exist, and his his steez. Lyrically, yes, I would CC and illa, as well as Nas and Jay were influential, stylistically though all Native Tongues. But I'll admit to digressing.

 

[homiedontplaydat]

He's in my top 10 even though i hate lasers and im not too much liking his new shyt. The Cool is a classic imo

 

[Greenstrings]

If you can't think of 10 rappers that are better than Lupe Fiasco you need to take a step back and think about your life.

 

[Versa]

Let me tell you something, any rapper in MY top 10 has been in the game at a mainstream level LEAST 15 years and has had to have made their mark in the game. Lupe has been in it, what around 5 or 6? I don't use mixtapes as a criteria for a great rapper as good as they may be, because mixtapes are not bound by the same constrictions studio albums are. If Lupe is in your top 10 that's fine and I wouldn't argue that. But let's be honest there is a gap between quality albums and classics and in my opinion Lupe has one (The Cool). If you are talking critical reception and the consensus of a lot of people, Laser's has damaged this dudes reputation. Furthermore the lack of cognizance this dude has for what came before him is disturbing. How is this dude going to lie through his teeth saying 'Well I didn't really listen to Native Toungues' when he flubbed the lyrics to a Tribe track. Despite the fact his steez is almost based entirely off that vibe. Furthermore, Kanye West has a larger resume than Lupe and warrants more consideration (whether you agree or not) based off my criteria.

I am a Lupe fan but to put him ahead of genre changing pioneers off the strength of dominating a weak era, is a bit premature, in my opinion. His music as good as it is does not stand up to the established classics in the genre and as such has no place in my top 10. Top 25, sure but top 10, you gotta do more than that.

On a side note, I do really like what I've heard from Food and Liquor II.

I think this is a respectable post that I simply disagree with in most areas. I'm about to go out so when I get home I'll respond to this with the respect it deserves.

If you can't think of 10 rappers that are better than Lupe Fiasco you need to take a step back and think about your life.

I'd love to see your list. Let's hear it friend.

 

[Greenstrings]

I'd love to see your list. Let's hear it friend.

This is by no means a top 10 but these are rappers that I believe for a number of reasons are comfortably ahead of Lupe in the greatness stakes.

Nas
GFK
Em
Q-Tip
Black Thought
Jay
Pac
Ye
Andre 3000
Big Boi
Slick Rick
Common
Scarface
Rakim
Scarface

I mean once you start it's hard to stop. The weight of history is very much on the side of these guys in terms of how their music has stands up and how it enhanced the culture. Lupe hasn't done anything to warrant being placed above these guys.

 

[heisenburrr]

technically speakin dudes pretty good...

but his songs are

THIS

He can rhyme with the best of em but musically speaking he ain't even top 20. I ain't always trying decipher lyrics when I'm listening to music

 

[Loose]

This is by no means a top 10 but these are rappers that I believe for a number of reasons are comfortably ahead of Lupe in the greatness stakes.

Nas
GFK
Em
Q-Tip
Black Thought
Jay
Pac
Ye
Andre 3000
Big Boi
Slick Rick
Common
Scarface
Rakim
Scarface theres two scarfaces

I mean once you start it's hard to stop. The weight of history is very much on the side of these guys in terms of how their music has stands up and how it enhanced the culture. Lupe hasn't done anything to warrant being placed above these guys.

the rest I'd accept

 

[Lavish]

I never was a Lupe fan. Just can't get into him

Sent from my Samsung S3 breh

 

[Greenstrings]

the rest I'd accept

We can quibble over a few here and there but there are a load of others I could have mentioned and you actually accepted 10. I can understand putting Lupe at the tail end of a top 25 but anything higher?

 

[Canada Goose]

I agree OP, Lupe is criminally underrated.

Registered just for this thread...
Lupe over Biggie?

Funny.

That should be a official smiley ":smugbig:"

Overall your post is not your opinion but the actual execution of this post

 

[Ineedmoney504]

I liked his albums outside of lasers, but he has no classics at all, at no point at anytime in hip hop have the world In love wit his albums, his albums has always been listened to by a few

but being real fukk the boring argument, nikka say the same shyt bout j Cole, fukk outta wit that shyt

 

[BlackZilla]

Lupe is being overrated. Based on sheer talent, yeah he's dope. but I think that people are nutting a bit too hard over the existence of a mainstream rapper that can actually put complex lyrics together, in an era where short-bus rappers like Waka and Lil B can eat.

In anycase, Lupe is yet to really have to impact that the other greats have had on the genre to be top 10.

That and the fact that he has the charisma of a bag of rocks, and his demeanor off the mic doesn't help either. (The inability to handle criticism).

 

[No1]

he's not in my top 10 either, there is a distinction being drawn here between top 10 all time and favourites

i listen more to lupe more than i do scarface at the moment doesn't mean he holds rank in the grand scheme of things, and he really doesn't have to, RIGHT NOW, he is the "nas/jay" of his generation, but of course we gotta be extra about it

He gets it. BlackZilla sees it too.

 

[No1]

the rest I'd accept

You have a problem with 3 stacks?