Lupe Fiasco Calls Pres. Obama A Child Killer

[Mowgli]

Lupe is in over his head.

 

[Techniec]

I think a bit of transparency would probably help to quell some of the sense of dread I have with the program. And in the case of Afghanistan I would even be perfectly fine with a troop withdrawal and the threat of drone attacks used as the means of keeping the peace as it were.

I have always thought that we should be using high level human intelligence (instead of bought and paid for snitches or folks we have tortured) for information gathering and start treating the Al-Queda problem as a police matter as opposed to an open ended, nebulous pseudo-war that is dominated by the military defense apparatus of this country.

And I am in total agreement with Ben Franklin when it comes to giving up personal liberties in the name of perceived safety.

the US uses drones based on human intelligence in the most tribalized fukkin place in the world, coming out of an ethnicized civil war

do you know how many motherfukers get their doors kicked in during night raids, cuz jealous azz haters in the village snitched on em?

do you know how many people get the drones called on em cuz they have tribal beefs?

do you know how many people are rotting in Guantanomo and Bagram cuz ethnic group A hit up a village and started rounding up people from ethnic group B, and called em all Taliban?

this whole drone business is shady as fukk and is a joke

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Until these drones start killing random American citizens will people start to give a fukk. Until then, the average American could give a flying fukk if some random "brown" person gets killed merely because they happened to be near a supposed "terrorist."

Lupe is one of the few OGs speaking truth to power. Hopefully these dumb nikkas scrambling to condemn Lupe for simply speaking thr truth get a drone strike to their noggins.

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

where you sayin the same thing on 9.11 or where you crying like a biitch?

I was sayin it fukked up AND was also acknowledging fukked up shyt happens everyday....BECAUSE IT DOES. Whether it's somebody in a small town gas station gettin rob n killed or a national tragedy like 911. Nobody is taking away da significance and/or pain caused by either one. Bad shyt happens EVERY SINGLE DAY to people. Nothing is goin to change dat and pointing dat shyt out is somehow a prollem? Stating a fact of life is simply dat....stating a fact of life.

Once again why is stating somethin factual(whether it's too harsh for your liking) such as innocent people die everyday seen as some sort of outlandish thing? Dere's nothing false or unrealistic about it. It's life and nobody can challenge dat.

Now FOH already wit all dis faux outrage bs over it.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

War is barbaric. Drones or no drones innocent people will die. Collateral damage is a part of war, it's not unique to drone strikes. You measure the efficacy of military war strategy if it accomplishes two things - it gets said mission done and it reduces the likelihood American military casualties. In both cases, drone strikes is good policy.

spoken like a true sheltered cac that hasn't actually had the pleasure of participating in war or seeing people die. Continue to enjoy your sheltered life of violent music and movies, and high cholesterol fast food.

 

[Serious]

*sigh*

I like Lupe Fiasco as an artist, but he needs to stay out of politics...

Especially, with his calling obama a terrorist steeze.

He's also forgets to mention, how complex the issue of secrecy and war are. Heck, the foriegn policy in this country is sohh complex, I don't think anyone truly understands how it works. With that said, breh needs to fallback, and take another political science or history class.

Everyone in America is indirectly involved in this regime. Where do you think gas comes from? Do you really want to pay $10 a gallon, as well as various other forms of inflations, ok sohh stfu

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

I was sayin it fukked up AND was also acknowledging fukked up shyt happens everyday....BECAUSE IT DOES. Whether it's somebody in a small town gas station gettin rob n killed or a national tragedy like 911. Nobody is taking away da significance and/or pain caused by either one. Bad shyt happens EVERY SINGLE DAY to people. Nothing is goin to change dat and pointing dat shyt out is somehow a prollem? Stating a fact of life is simply dat....stating a fact of life.

Once again why is stating somethin factual(whether it's too harsh for your liking) such as innocent people die everyday seen as some sort of outlandish thing? Dere's nothing false or unrealistic about it. It's life and nobody can challenge dat.

Now FOH already wit all dis faux outrage bs over it.

I hope you maintain this same callous attitude when one of your people's get killed by a terrorist or drone.

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

I hope you maintain this same callous attitude when one of your people's get killed by a terrorist or drone.

. Nobody is taking away da significance and/or pain caused by either one. Bad shyt happens EVERY SINGLE DAY to people. Nothing is goin to change dat and pointing dat shyt out is somehow a prollem? Stating a fact of life is simply dat....stating a fact of life.

You nikkas really do need to develp your comprehension skills. All i said was innocent people die everyday and you mufukkas are actin like i said some wild outlandish fantastical evil shyt.

 

[zerozero]

You nikkas really do need to develp your comprehension skills. All i said was innocent people die everyday and you mufukkas are actin like i said some wild outlandish fantastical evil shyt.

let's be real, you said this in response to me pointing out you guys were dismissing a legit concern about drone strikes from Lupe. Your point about 'innocents' was specifically a response to my saying that these drone strikes are killing a lot of random people. If you were making a general point about life than it's neither here nor there on drone strikes or anything else

 

[Spatial Paradox]

You nikkas really do need to develp your comprehension skills. All i said was innocent people die everyday and you mufukkas are actin like i said some wild outlandish fantastical evil shyt.

When your response to this:

^^ all these heads in the sand


face it, drone strikes kill scores of innocents with no proof, process or recourse

is this:

Innocent people get killed everyday nikka. Dat's life.

it sounds a lot like a callous dismissal of innocent people getting killed (and ignores the fact that we're the ones killing them). Accepting that innocent people die all of the time doesn't absolve those responsible for their deaths, especially when these innocent deaths aren't isolated incidents.

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

let's be real, you said this in response to me pointing out you guys were dismissing a legit concern about drone strikes from Lupe. Your point about 'innocents' was specifically a response to my saying that these drone strikes are killing a lot of random people. If you were making a general point about life than it's neither here nor there on drone strikes or anything else

How da fukk YOU gon tell ME what da meaning was behind what I said nikka?

Innocent people die everyday. Whether it's by drone attacks or whatever. Dat was mah point period. YOU'RE da mufukka trynna project some other motive/meaning onto it other than what it simply was.

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

it sounds a lot like a callous dismissal of innocent people getting killed (and ignores the fact that we're the ones killing them). Accepting that innocent people die all of the time doesn't absolve those responsible for their deaths.

I was sayin it fukked up AND was also acknowledging fukked up shyt happens everyday....BECAUSE IT DOES. Whether it's somebody in a small town gas station gettin rob n killed or a national tragedy like 911. Nobody is taking away da significance and/or pain caused by either one. Bad shyt happens EVERY SINGLE DAY to people. Nothing is goin to change dat and pointing dat shyt out is somehow a prollem? Stating a fact of life is simply dat....stating a fact of life.

 

[zerozero]

How da fukk YOU gon tell ME what da meaning was behind what I said nikka?

Innocent people die everyday. Whether it's by drone attacks or whatever. Dat was mah point period. YOU'RE da mufukka trynna project some other motive/meaning onto it other than what it simply was.

So you have no point? You just came in here talking like Jules from Pulp Fiction with no reference to drone strikes as opposed to other things? Fine then. I look forward to you walking into other threads about murder saying similar things

 

[Brown_Pride]

but why stop there? I and millions of others voted for Obama, aren't I responsible too? What about those of use who pay taxes aka pay for those drone strikes, aren't we responsible? what about the intelligence officers and the other military personnel who help coordinate drone attacks?

Cristian on the other site got a lot of heat for being a super revolutionary but at least he knew that each cog in the wheel plays an important part. without one the machine stutters to a halt but I get what Lupe is saying

MOre or less.

IF we're going to toss around blame then there is more than enough to go around. In a democracy you get what you voted for and well, this shyt didn't happen overnight; we're looking at 70+ years of complacency and "who-gives-a-fukindess". I've come to the point in my life and understanding of the world where I don't blame a few people, i blame everyone. ESPECIALLY people who don't vote. I wonder if Lupe voted last election.

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

So you have no point? You just came in here talking like Jules from Pulp Fiction with no reference to drone strikes as opposed to other things? Fine then. I look forward to you walking into other threads about murder saying similar things

I'm guess you nikkas just have an extremely bad case of selective reading or somethin. You just read me sayin the point of my post but now I have no point and i'm now Jules from Pulp Fiction?...

Right.

You didn't hear one fukkin word outta mah mouf not codemning the drone attacks. You didn't hear one fukkin word outta mah mouf givin Obama any sort of pass for none of dat shyt. I simply said innocent people die everyday. And dey are goin to continue to die especially in any kinda war and/or military conflict. It's a fact of life on dis planet. Me givin a general statement for which, yes dis topic falls underneath. has got you nikkas all up n arms? G come da fukk on already wit dis shyt.