Lupe Fiasco Calls Pres. Obama A Child Killer

[GetInTheTruck]

I think yall give too much credit. Yea he's the president......you know what nevermind. Yep place the blame on the figurehead.

Nobody cut Bush that kind of slack.

 

[Real Talk of NY]

We at war. People will die.

 

[mtu wa chuma]

I dont agree with lupe but its nice to see a black celebrity/person not be afraid to criticise him. we need to stop treating him like he's some kind of messiah devoid of any blame

 

[Jesus H. Christ]

I get what he is saying but he could chose a better way to say it.

 

[Fillerguy]

but why stop there? I and millions of others voted for Obama, aren't I responsible too? What about those of use who pay taxes aka pay for those drone strikes, aren't we responsible? what about the intelligence officers and the other military personnel who help coordinate drone attacks?

Cristian on the other site got a lot of heat for being a super revolutionary but at least he knew that each cog in the wheel plays an important part. without one the machine stutters to a halt but I get what Lupe is saying

 

[Mr swag]

He's right though. If Bush were doing this we'd be calling him a war criminal. fukk Obama, at least Bush took the label and wore it proud.

i wasnt


i loved how bush bust his guns

went to other countires like

 

[No1]

The attempts to rationalize his continuation of military adventurism on the left has been sad, flawed, and hypocritical to say the very least. Leftist like Chris Hedges, Glenn Greenwald,Jeremy Schahill, and Jonathan Turley among others have called them out on it.

Actually, Obama has taken more accountability over this stuff than any president before him. He actually sits down and has the final call over every specific individual that is targeted by a drone strike. He demands detailed information and biographical history on each person and sits down with all of his key advisors to decide who is going to be targeted. He is in the room and at the helm of the decisions. So at the very least, he's not just saying "Go " on 'em. He's taking that moral responsibility on himself. A guy like Lupe whose biggest revolution is "dumb it out" has no basis to judge warfare. It's the guys like Lupe who critique everything from a distance but can't take criticism themselves and cannot articulate their opinions and justifications when tried on them that antagonize me the most.

He's my favorite rapper right but,

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

What do y'all think about drone bombing if there wasn't as much secrecy surrounding it and they didn't have that bullshyt definition of militants? If it was more structured, less secretive, more well-defined and limited to Al Qaeda jihadists who there is actionable intelligence to believe they are plotting attacks on the U.S., would you support it or at least be less outraged about it?

What if we began withdrawal of ground troops of Afghanistan and kept up that more well-defined, less secretive drone program?

What does everyone think our general approach and tactics toward handling Al Qaeda should be? Should military tools be used at all? What degree of surveillance and monitoring and encroachment on civil liberties should be allowed if any?

 

[Metta World Movement]

I don't care if this clown was able to justify that statement. He is a fukkin' attention whore, and that cancels out any point he's trying to make. This ain't the first time he said some outlandish shyt like this.

Dude is like some anti-abortion guy who goes out in public with a megaphone, covered in fake blood and wearing nothing but a diaper. It's like, yeah we get your point, but do you REALLY have to do all of that shyt to drive it home

 

[Jello Biafra]

Actually, Obama has taken more accountability over this stuff than any president before him. He actually sits down and has the final call over every specific individual that is targeted by a drone strike. He demands detailed information and biographical history on each person and sits down with all of his key advisors to decide who is going to be targeted. He is in the room and at the helm of the decisions. So at the very least, he's not just saying "Go " on 'em. He's taking that moral responsibility on himself. A guy like Lupe whose biggest revolution is "dumb it out" has no basis to judge warfare. It's the guys like Lupe who critique everything from a distance but can't take criticism themselves and cannot articulate their opinions and justifications when tried on them that antagonize me the most.

He's my favorite rapper right but,

All of that makes it worse then because he is basically saying that any innocent people being blown up accidentily don't matter as long as hecan get the second cousin of the driver of the guy who once upon a time met Osama Bin Laden in a poppy field who is possibly a terror suspect. And who gives a damn if this suspected terroristsis a United States citizen? We'll blow them up too and look for any concrete evidence from the smoking hole we leave behind after the drone attack.
Its a barbaric policy and I am in agreement with Pres. Jimmy Carter in his condemnations of the practice.

 

[Gallo]

All of that makes it worse then because he is basically saying that any innocent people being blown up accidentily don't matter as long as hecan get the second cousin of the driver of the guy who once upon a time met Osama Bin Laden in a poppy field who is possibly a terror suspect. And who gives a damn if this suspected terroristsis a United States citizen? We'll blow them up too and look for any concrete evidence from the smoking hole we leave behind after the drone attack.
Its a barbaric policy and I am in agreement with Pres. Jimmy Carter in his condemnations of the practice.

War is barbaric. Drones or no drones innocent people will die. Collateral damage is a part of war, it's not unique to drone strikes. You measure the efficacy of military war strategy if it accomplishes two things - it gets said mission done and it reduces the likelihood American military casualties. In both cases, drone strikes is good policy.

 

[Jello Biafra]

What do y'all think about drone bombing if there wasn't as much secrecy surrounding it and they didn't have that bullshyt definition of militants? If it was more structured, less secretive, more well-defined and limited to Al Qaeda jihadists who there is actionable intelligence to believe they are plotting attacks on the U.S., would you support it or at least be less outraged about it?

What if we began withdrawal of ground troops of Afghanistan and kept up that more well-defined, less secretive drone program?

What does everyone think our general approach and tactics toward handling Al Qaeda should be? Should military tools be used at all? What degree of surveillance and monitoring and encroachment on civil liberties should be allowed if any?

I think a bit of transparency would probably help to quell some of the sense of dread I have with the program. And in the case of Afghanistan I would even be perfectly fine with a troop withdrawal and the threat of drone attacks used as the means of keeping the peace as it were.

I have always thought that we should be using high level human intelligence (instead of bought and paid for snitches or folks we have tortured) for information gathering and start treating the Al-Queda problem as a police matter as opposed to an open ended, nebulous pseudo-war that is dominated by the military defense apparatus of this country.

And I am in total agreement with Ben Franklin when it comes to giving up personal liberties in the name of perceived safety.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

He must need some attention.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

lol man this topic is weird because I feel like atheist and non religious ppl are on both sides of the playing field

Dude, lupe is coming from a standpoint that "no man has a right to take another man's life."

While the other side is coming from the "its for the greater good" area

You have to see the other mines point of view on life before you start dismissing his argument. His argument is very valid from his arena.

 

[Techniec]

Innocent people get killed everyday nikka. Dat's life.

where you sayin the same thing on 9.11 or where you crying like a biitch?