Luka Doncic traded to Lakers for Anthony Davis (Shams) He might be hacked?? IDK* ITS REAL DAMMIT

Is this gonna have major ramifications??

  • Yes players era is over

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  • Nah Nico is just a dummy

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From the Mavs or, rather, the non-Lakers perspective. AD is being disrespected and Max is being slept on.
Eh, Max is just meh overall.

He barely got playing time the last 2-3 seasons, and this year, he started to come into his own, but people have been raving about him for years, and honestly, I feel like his time as a Laker should've been over.

He was just collecting dust on the bench. I didn't see all this optimism about him the way others did; he still gives me G-League rotation vibes...he's not that different from Bronny; slightly better, but not exactly great either. The kind of player you'd give garbage minutes to every night.

It was inevitable that he'd be traded just, but the team needed to raise his stock a bit, which he did this season; however, most Mavs fans online elsewhere seem to not know who the hell he is, scratching their heads. I don't think he gets much playing time in Dallas tho.
 

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It's just the context of who he was traded for. Everybody knows AD is great and a future HOFer. But put it like this - If 24 hours ago, it was announced the Lakers are moving AD would you have thought they could get Luka back? And if 24 hours ago, it was announced the Mavs were looking to move Luka, would you have thought AD, Max Christie and a 2029 1st was the best offer they could get? If the answer is no to both then you could paint the picture for why the reaction is like this.
I don't understand people not getting this, nobody is saying AD isn't a great player in his own right. It's just to only get that package back for a perennial All-NBA level player at 25 is just not enough, period. The reason this is getting this reaction is because it's so unprecedented.
 

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In the last three seasons:

- Luka took the Mavs to the WCF in 2022 (losing to the eventual champions Warriors, where he was arguably the best player in the series)
- Luka took the Mavs to the Finals in 2024 (where he was definitively the best player on offense in the series).

I don't understand why y'all keep putting all this emphasis on his weight issues and lack of commitment on defense. It's completely irrelevant in this context because he's a top-3 player and has proven himself to be the #1 option on a contending team. He brought that franchise back from irrelevancy, both on the court and their monetary value as an NBA aegis.

Even if the perceived issues you had of him didn't exist, nothing would've changed over the last three years, so what possible logical reason could there be to trade him?

There isn't one.

The best that AD could do leading a team was get them out of the 1st round, one time. He couldn't even get the Pels on the map, in any sense of the word.

Beyond how lopsided this trade is in a vacuum, when Kyrie and AD both end up inevitably declining and the Mavs need to retool, what star is going to willingly want to go to Dallas after how they disposed of Luka like they did? This is going to deter free agents and any players who're they're wanting to draft in the future as long as the Adelsons own the Mavs.
He took the Mavs to the WCF with Brunson.

He took the Mavs to the Finals with Kyrie.

He didn’t just drag these teams by himself, that’s disingenuous.

Without those level of talent or the defense that helped him get to the finals last season, it isn’t a foregone conclusion the lakers will have the same success Luka had with the Mavs.

Luka’s flaws being brought up is because it has impacted their team. Your best player doesn’t care about how he carries his weight or defense, it trickles down to the rest team & normalizes you don’t have to do the hard work. The Celtics purposely attacked Luka in the finals again and again because of his lack of effort on defense.

Reminds me of Charles Barkley in a way, went to the Finals (like Luka), rebounding, scoring menace (like Luka), weight issues (like Luka), lack of defense (like Luka), won MVP (we shall see with Luka), never won a ring (again, we shall see).

You’re essentially propping his accomplishments and downplaying his flaws that could be detrimental to potential success. It’s not a fair and balanced argument, it’s actually biased.
 
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Christie is getting slept on. That's the kind of player that EVERY team covets and he locked in to a team friendly deal.

Luka is every bit the injury concern AD is and one must wonder why a squad was not only willing to part with him but actually initiated it.

Anytime you make a trade you are taking a risk.
This is patently ridiculous.

The inclusion of Christie is meaningless. Especially when the Mavs could've got Reaves instead (or both).

Luka is not every bit of an injury concern, considering he's half a decade younger and hasn't had a serious injury in his career. His style of play should naturally lead him to staying on the same trajectory because he doesn't recklessly throw his body around or play above the rim. The only hinderance to that is he doesn't have an offseason, and that could speed up his timeline if he continues down that path (something that the Lakers or whatever team he lands on will need to address).

Dallas only parted with him because they have cheap ownership who don't wanna pay him his money. That's all it is. It's got nothing to do with these "injury concerns". It's just a justifcation used so they don't have to disclose the real reason. Every other single franchise in the same position wouldn't have hesitated on giving him the supermax.

The Lakers hit the literal jackpot and you're talking about them taking a risk?

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Eh, Max is just meh overall.

He barely got playing time the last 2-3 seasons, and this year, he started to come into his own, but people have been raving about him for years, and honestly, I feel like his time as a Laker should've been over.

He was just collecting dust on the bench.

It was inevitable that he'd be traded just, but the team needed to raise his stock a bit, which he did this season; however, most Mavs fans online elsewhere seem to not know who the hell he is, scratching their heads. I don't think he gets much playing time in Dallas tho.
Mavs projected 9 man rotation:
Kyrie
Klay
PJ (I don't really think PJ is a 3 but he hasn't played it much if any but we'll see)
AD
Gafford for now with Lively out for what looks like the rest of the season.

Bench: Dinwiddie, Marshall, Grimes, Christie

Gafford prolly getting traded in the off-season since AD can close games at the 5.
 
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