Low key though: The fantastic four is a garbage group, their origin sucks, and marvel should kill em
- Thread starter Ed MOTHEREFFING G
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you know she put a forcefield on that p*ssy when he try to hit...that ill nana belongs to the king of Atlantis 
BlackAchilles
Veteran
The movie with Alba and Chiklis was one of the worst of any genre Ive ever seen
The Black Sheep
Man at war with himself
The only one they should keep is the Human Torch. Have him stay being Black but give him a new name and a new origin.
Have it be set in the 1700's or something were this slave is trying to escape but gets caught and lynched by some cac's. While he's on the tree they set him on fire because he wouldn't die fast enough. Once they think he's dead they leave. His body remains on the tree for 3 days but then he rises from the dead, or ashes like a Phoenix. Once he awakes, he doesn't know how he survived or what happen. Eventually he starts to discover his fire powers and once he gets used to them, he sets out for revenge. He flies around America killing cac's, setting plantations and cotton fields on fire while freeing slaves.
shyt would be epic.
Have it be set in the 1700's or something were this slave is trying to escape but gets caught and lynched by some cac's. While he's on the tree they set him on fire because he wouldn't die fast enough. Once they think he's dead they leave. His body remains on the tree for 3 days but then he rises from the dead, or ashes like a Phoenix. Once he awakes, he doesn't know how he survived or what happen. Eventually he starts to discover his fire powers and once he gets used to them, he sets out for revenge. He flies around America killing cac's, setting plantations and cotton fields on fire while freeing slaves.
shyt would be epic.
Thatrogueassdiaz
We're on the blood path now
Remember when The Thing got his face fukked up and had to run around with a mask? 
KravenMorehead™
Barrel Brothers.®
EXACTLY.The Fantastic Four strikes me as one of those works that feels reallytoday, since nearly every comic superhero team drew from it and bit off of it in some way.
All the stuff we consider cliche andnowadays was actually revolutionary back then since the FF basically pioneered all of that.
That said, I give the FF props for its influence, being the first hero team to feel more like regular people, as well as introducing Doom, Galactus and the Silver Surfer.
...but it's definitely Larry Holmes status today.
X-men >>>>>>>>>>>>
Edit: the Thing is that dude though
Days of Future Piff
Superstar
Yeah, I feel you on this one. Avengers got the better movies, but x-men wins every other category.
X-men has the GOAT storylines (Dark Phoenix, Days of Future Past, God Loves Man Kills, Frank Miller Wolverine, etc.)
The original x-men cartoon from '92 still goes hard and is one of the GOAT marvel cartoons
They had the better video games (the arcade game, mutant apocalypse for snes, x-men 1 and 2 on sega, children of the atom, x men vs street fighter, x men legends 1 and 2)
They dominated on marvel vs capcom...
Wolverine in MvC1>>>>>>>
Cable, Magneto, Sentinel, Storm, and Cyclops in MvC2 >>>>>>>
They're like the WuTang Clan of superheroes
Saysumthinfunnymike
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..but Avengers doesn't have the better movies. For example, Days of Future Past is better than Age of Ultron. 
It's not their fault that Reed would solve any normal hero's issues in about 10 minutes. The only things that even register to him are world ending and reality shattering events. Fantastic Four are the last resort squad that takes care of bidness before people realize bidness even needs taken care of cause they don't even have the capability to recognize such monstrous mothafukkin bidness.
This hate and slander....nah. Can't stand by it. Mister Fantastic by himself will wreck your favorite hero don't get it twisted.
This hate and slander....nah. Can't stand by it. Mister Fantastic by himself will wreck your favorite hero don't get it twisted.
Now if Reed was a darker anti-hero type of character with a different outfit instead of the blue spandex his stretching power would seem
But since he's this super smart corny scientist his power seems kinda silly.
The Infamous
Superstar
Always like the name Mr. Fantastic....
But gotdamn at sue being thot..
*Sees name*
I dony know how you have mr fantastic's brains and abilities and she wants to fukk other dudes cause you focused on all your science experiments...
I swear if I had his powers id fukk every chick i could find.... changing my dikk size at will....
I swear if I had his powers id fukk every chick i could find....
changing my dikk size at will....
TheGodling
Los Ingobernables de Sala de Cine
I've been avoiding this thread like the plague since the very premise was so asinine it hurt my head but I'll play ball for a little bit since I see a lot of recklessness here.
Complaining about characters created in the 60s for having outdated origins and powers sounds like "no shyt, Sherlock" to me. Maybe you want to remember this is the same era that gave us such complex origins such as... teenager gets bitten by radioactive spider and scientist gets hit by radioactive gamma wave. That shyt is all outdated because it's 2015 and the fear of the atom bomb and nuclear power doesn't exist anymore. Besides, all their powers are tied to their personalities. Reed is stretching because he's always trying to reach new scientific boundaries, Sue is invincible because she is a neglected housewife, Johnny is on fire because he's a hot head, The Thing is a rock because he's one of those hard on the outside kinda guys (but soft on the inside).
Anyway, they're superpowered explorers/scientists, not superheroes. Sure, they save the world on occasion and all, but primarily the essence of their stories are that they discover new worlds and cross scientific boundaries and you can marvel in the high concept scifi stuff. That's why Hickman's recent run is one of the GOAT runs because he got that and did that from the start. Plus besides him there aren't too many writers who can pull off that high concept scifi stuff effortlessly.
Saying they're not worthy of their foe is hilarious because it's Doom who always has to involve the FF in his plans or calls them out, because he considers Richards his only worthy foe, the one person he has to prove himself superior to. They probably would barely bother with him at all if he wasn't constantly knocking on their door to involve them in the event that surely will prove his superiority once and for all.
Their children are more compelling than they are because they're new characters that can be taken into many directions, since most writers (shytty ones especially) are scared of trying new stuff to the core members and just keep them running in circles (similar to how nobody bothers to evolve Hank Pym and just keep going back to the "You hit your wife once 40 years ago but still feel guilty about it all the damn time" plot). That's a writing problem, not a character problem, and it's another reason Hickman's run is GOAT because he pushed them to new things.
And I'd say the most interesting thing they've done to Reed recently (his wife flirting with Namor isn't recent, that goes back decades) is when Hickman made him the only Reed Richards in the entire multiverse who wouldn't sacrifice his family over the advancement of scientific discovery, which emphasizes that for all his 'neglect', he still cares for them deeply (btw, that's Hickman again).
Regarding their names btw, they didn't call themselves that. It's the media who named them. Even in the field they always address each other by their first names. In fact, nobody that actually knows them calls Ben "The Thing", they just call him Ben.
But don't let a lack of knowledge of the characters, their history and their stories get in the way of all the shock posting.
Complaining about characters created in the 60s for having outdated origins and powers sounds like "no shyt, Sherlock" to me. Maybe you want to remember this is the same era that gave us such complex origins such as... teenager gets bitten by radioactive spider and scientist gets hit by radioactive gamma wave. That shyt is all outdated because it's 2015 and the fear of the atom bomb and nuclear power doesn't exist anymore. Besides, all their powers are tied to their personalities. Reed is stretching because he's always trying to reach new scientific boundaries, Sue is invincible because she is a neglected housewife, Johnny is on fire because he's a hot head, The Thing is a rock because he's one of those hard on the outside kinda guys (but soft on the inside).
Anyway, they're superpowered explorers/scientists, not superheroes. Sure, they save the world on occasion and all, but primarily the essence of their stories are that they discover new worlds and cross scientific boundaries and you can marvel in the high concept scifi stuff. That's why Hickman's recent run is one of the GOAT runs because he got that and did that from the start. Plus besides him there aren't too many writers who can pull off that high concept scifi stuff effortlessly.
Saying they're not worthy of their foe is hilarious because it's Doom who always has to involve the FF in his plans or calls them out, because he considers Richards his only worthy foe, the one person he has to prove himself superior to. They probably would barely bother with him at all if he wasn't constantly knocking on their door to involve them in the event that surely will prove his superiority once and for all.
Their children are more compelling than they are because they're new characters that can be taken into many directions, since most writers (shytty ones especially) are scared of trying new stuff to the core members and just keep them running in circles (similar to how nobody bothers to evolve Hank Pym and just keep going back to the "You hit your wife once 40 years ago but still feel guilty about it all the damn time" plot). That's a writing problem, not a character problem, and it's another reason Hickman's run is GOAT because he pushed them to new things.
And I'd say the most interesting thing they've done to Reed recently (his wife flirting with Namor isn't recent, that goes back decades) is when Hickman made him the only Reed Richards in the entire multiverse who wouldn't sacrifice his family over the advancement of scientific discovery, which emphasizes that for all his 'neglect', he still cares for them deeply (btw, that's Hickman again).
Regarding their names btw, they didn't call themselves that. It's the media who named them. Even in the field they always address each other by their first names. In fact, nobody that actually knows them calls Ben "The Thing", they just call him Ben.
But don't let a lack of knowledge of the characters, their history and their stories get in the way of all the shock posting.
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