Louie Gohmert rallies blacks: You won your freedom so you can discriminate against gays

[The Real]

Why are black men even investing time to Cape for gays ??? i mean honestly black brehs....

they are trying to annihilate us out here and instead of supporting each other

some of us are out here trying to bring gays into our conversation

saying outlandish things like comparing the gay struggle to the black struggle....

which is an insult to Malcolm Martin Rosa Parks etc.

wake the fukk up and stop being captain save a gays....trust me they have an entire agenda

backing them

You have a panther symbol in your avi. Read Huey Newton's speech on why Blacks should be allying with gays.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

You have a panther symbol in your avi. Read Huey Newton's speech on why Blacks should be allying with gays.

People make mistakes.

 

[Type Username Here]

You have a panther symbol in your avi. Read Huey Newton's speech on why Blacks should be allying with gays.

Link?

 

[RAX 010]

You have a panther symbol in your avi. Read Huey Newton's speech on why Blacks should be allying with gays.

Forget that right now breh ....when did that come out? 70s or 80s?

the landscape is different now...lets focus on the here and now

 

[No_bammer_weed]

saying outlandish things like comparing the gay struggle to the black struggle....

which is an insult to Malcolm Martin Rosa Parks etc.

You're not being forced to the back of the bus, and I dont see anymore "colored" drinking fountains...so by your standard it looks like you have no right to complain about societal treatment, and "civil rights". Glad we got all that cleared up.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

I find it sickening that black people, the most powerless in the nation are looked at and chastized for not supporting demonic legislation in comparison to the multitude of other ethnic groups in the nation. Why is this issue on our backs? Especially when we are the least married and have bigger issues to deal with in our communities. This demonic trash is not something we should be focusing on, at all. I mean not ever and definately not now.

Meanwhile israel openly discriminates against black africans but nobody will say anything about that...

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Meanwhile israel openly discriminates against black africans but nobody will say anything about that...

Nothing. They'll say

*thats messed up* Pity posts.

 

[Type Username Here]

Meanwhile israel openly discriminates against black africans but nobody will say anything about that...

What I agree with you and Mowgli on is the hypocritical stance of our government and the foreign policy. I also don't mind shytting on the Gay Community for their selective outrage, mainly geared towards Christians. They fear pointing out bigotry en masse in Islam and Judaism for some odd reason.

The Gay Community is up in arms about Uganda and Russia, yet quiet as all hell when it comes to Saudi Arabia and the other gulf states. Yet you do magically hear about homosexual abuses in Iran every so often.

 

[RAX 010]

You're not being forced to the back of the bus, and I dont see anymore "colored" drinking fountains...so by your standard it looks like you have no right to complain about societal treatment, and "civil rights". Glad we got all that cleared up.

This society wants me to be docile non threatening and willing to turn the other cheek when another brother is gettin his head bashed in by these crackaz....but thats not me...

so u gonna sit here and tell me we live in a "POST RACIAL U.S"

im listening

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Link?

I've posted it several times. It always gets crickets. The only response I got when I posted it in that long ass coliseum thread Walt made was Reincar calling Huey Newton a crackhead, lol.

During the past few years strong movements have developed among women and among homosexuals seeking their liberation. There has been some uncertainty about how to relate to these movements.

Whatever your personal opinions and your insecurities about homosexuality and the various liberation movements among homosexuals and women (and I speak of the homosexuals and women as oppressed groups), we should try to unite with them in a revolutionary fashion.

I say ”whatever your insecurities are” because as we very well know, sometimes our first instinct is to want to hit a homosexual in the mouth, and want a woman to be quiet. We want to hit a homosexual in the mouth because we are afraid that we might be homosexual; and we want to hit the women or shut her up because we are afraid that she might castrate us, or take the nuts that we might not have to start with.

We must gain security in ourselves and therefore have respect and feelings for all oppressed people. We must not use the racist attitude that the white racists use against our people because they are Black and poor. Many times the poorest white person is the most racist because he is afraid that he might lose something, or discover something that he does not have. So you’re some kind of a threat to him. This kind of psychology is in operation when we view oppressed people and we are angry with them because of their particular kind of behavior, or their particular kind of deviation from the established norm.

Remember, we have not established a revolutionary value system; we are only in the process of establishing it. I do not remember our ever constituting any value that said that a revolutionary must say offensive things towards homosexuals, or that a revolutionary should make sure that women do not speak out about their own particular kind of oppression. As a matter of fact, it is just the opposite: we say that we recognize the women’s right to be free. We have not said much about the homosexual at all, but we must relate to the homosexual movement because it is a real thing. And I know through reading, and through my life experience and observations that homosexuals are not given freedom and liberty by anyone in the society. They might be the most oppressed people in the society.

And what made them homosexual? Perhaps it’s a phenomenon that I don’t understand entirely. Some people say that it is the decadence of capitalism. I don’t know if that is the case; I rather doubt it. But whatever the case is, we know that homosexuality is a fact that exists, and we must understand it in its purest form: that is, a person should have the freedom to use his body in whatever way he wants.

That is not endorsing things in homosexuality that we wouldn’t view as revolutionary. But there is nothing to say that a homosexual cannot also be a revolutionary. And maybe I’m now injecting some of my prejudice by saying that “even a homosexual can be a revolutionary.” Quite the contrary, maybe a homosexual could be the most revolutionary.

When we have revolutionary conferences, rallies, and demonstrations, there should be full participation of the gay liberation movement and the women’s liberation movement. Some groups might be more revolutionary than others. We should not use the actions of a few to say that they are all reactionary or counter-revolutionary, because they are not.

We should deal with the factions just as we deal with any other group or party that claims to be revolutionary. We should try to judge, somehow, whether they are operating in a sincere revolutionary fashion and from a really oppressed situation. (And we will grant that if they are women they are probably oppressed.) If they do things that are unrevolutionary or counter-revolutionary, then criticize that action.

If we feel that the group in spirit means to be revolutionary in practice, but they make mistakes in interpretation of the revolutionary philosophy, or they do not understand the dialectics of the social forces in operation, we should criticize that and not criticize them because they are women trying to be free. And the same is true for homosexuals. We should never say a whole movement is dishonest when in fact they are trying to be honest. They are just making honest mistakes. Friends are allowed to make mistakes. The enemy is not allowed to make mistakes because his whole existence is a mistake, and we suffer from it. But the women’s liberation front and gay liberation front are our friends, they are our potential allies, and we need as many allies as possible.

We should be willing to discuss the insecurities that many people have about homosexuality. When I say “insecurities,” I mean the fear that they are some kind of threat to our manhood. I can understand this fear. Because of the long conditioning process which builds insecurity in the American male, homosexuality might produce certain hang-ups in us. I have hang-ups myself about male homosexuality. But on the other hand, I have no hang-up about female homosexuality. And that is a phenomenon in itself. I think it is probably because male homosexuality is a threat to me and female homosexuality is not.

We should be careful about using those terms that might turn our friends off. The terms “fakkit” and “punk” should be deleted from our vocabulary, and especially we should not attach names normally designed for homosexuals to men who are enemies of the people, such as [Richard] Nixon or [John] Mitchell. Homosexuals are not enemies of the people.

We should try to form a working coalition with the gay liberation and women’s liberation groups. We must always handle social forces in the most appropriate manner.

 

[RAX 010]

I've posted it several times. It always gets crickets. The only response I got when I posted it in that long ass coliseum thread Walt made was Reincar calling Huey Newton a crackhead, lol.

the landscape has changed breh....

even with feminism ....

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

the landscape has changed breh....

even with feminism ....

lol...how does one even respond to balderash like this? Some of y'all really need to turn off Tariq Nasheed, Tommy Sotomayor, or whatever other clown ass uneducated youtube charlatans you let inform your worldview and do some serious research...which requires reading books. It takes up more time, it's harder to do, and it isn't as fun, but you'll be informed instead of brainwashed by self-gratifying

 

[The Real]

Link?

The transcript is here: http://hiphopandpolitics.com/2012/0...gay-rights-in-the-wake-of-obamas-endorsement/

 

[RAX 010]

lol...how does one even respond to balderash like this? Some of y'all really need to turn off Tariq Nasheed, Tommy Sotomayor, or whatever other clown ass uneducated youtube charlatans you let inform your worldview and do some serious research...which requires reading books. It takes up more time, it's harder to do, and it isn't as fun, but you'll be informed instead of brainwashed by self-gratifying

this is reality your just too blind to realize it at this point brother

 

[The Real]

Forget that right now breh ....when did that come out? 70s or 80s?

the landscape is different now...lets focus on the here and now

I am focused on the here and now, and what Huey said back then is applicable today. Most gay people suffer economic discrimination, housing and healthcare discrimination, and can't even access some basic services due to their sexual orientation (things to do with hospital visitations, inheritance, insurance, etc.) and HIV/AIDS is a major problem they deal with. All of those problems also seriously affect the Black community. You see rich, white gay men suddenly getting shine in the media and assume that their out of touch and sometimes racist ways represent all homosexuals, but that's not true. They are just the few elites at the top. The truth is that there have been homosexuals in the Black community since the civil rights movement that have helped fight for freedom and equality on both fronts. Bayard Rustin, who was Martin Luther King's most trusted advisor/teacher and who actually planned the March on Washington was a gay man. Angela Davis, who went to prison for her revolutionary and militant work in the Black community and worked closely with the Panthers is a lesbian. They understood, unlike many people today, that there is actually a large overlap between the problems that affect both populations.