Lord Jamar Hates ADOS/FBA | Why Do People Think Its Hard To Trace Your Ancestry?

[xoxodede]

The divisive talks come because of the disses tbh, and the rhe

Nah. I don't even know what the issue is.

 

[Budda]

Nah. I don't even know what the issue is.

People like Tariq who I respect but understand some of the stuff he says is exaggerated and for entertainment purposes, at the end of the day this is how he feeds his family.

Not everyone takes to it like that, then you’ve got some people like in this thread who’ve never probably had a bad experience with a Haitian person in their life, dissing a country and it’s people who are the way they are because of white supremacy, in a way akin to white republicans.

 

[tuckgod]

The divisive talks come because of the disses tbh, and the the rhetoric espoused by Tariq and even some in this thread, at the root having the organisation and also drawing on the importance of lineage is legitimate.

I don’t entertain people like that because if Tariq is still the face they see when they hear ADOS then they never bothered to take the discussion seriously in the first place.

fukk the name, fukk those characters, research Dr. Darity’s work, understand the message.

Most people getting put on to ADOS today ain’t never even heard of Tariq, Yvette or Tone.

It ain’t about them, it’s about the data and what’s owed.

 

[Low End Derrick]

Oh, CARICOM is the Caribbean organization created to organize the Caribbean diaspora in order to seek reparations from the UK for slavery and colonialism.

When we explain what ADOS is and the purpose it was created for, we’re called divisive.

When we inform/remind some Caribbean folk that they have a similar organization already doing work for them, apparently that’s a strawman argument.

Maybe you can make it make sense.

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Nothing about reparations, breh.

 

[tuckgod]

Nothing about reparations, breh.

Keep reading the thread breh

 

[MajesticLion]

Maybe reparations isn’t the main purpose but CARICOM is something designed to organize and strategize solely for the benefit of members of the Caribbean diaspora, not all black people.

And that’s what they should be doing.

Nobody calls them divisive for it.

Okay, I see where you're headed now. That'[s still not what CARICOM is for, but to your overall point: unfortunately there's no equivalency there to be had, so your comparison is a bit odd. If there were large numbers of black Americans in the Caribbean, if they were there for generations, working/going to school/marrying locals/facing the same challenges/moving back and forth conducting business and forging ties every time you did, then you'd have a point. Otherwise, no.

Have they put out a statement in support of American blacks in regard to everything going on right now?

There's no need. We're here. We always have been. There's no need for statements, we're already involved. Racist Americans aren't about to care about a different accent in the same black skin, our blood gets shed the same as any.

Point is, everybody has their own thing, let us have ours.

We should all be able to do that and still be able to come to the table for the greater good of the entire diaspora as needed.

Sure, by all means go for it. Nobody's stopping you but you.

 

[8WON6]

Nothing about reparations, breh.

• ensure that social and economic justice and the principles of good governance are enshrined in law and embedded in practice;

 

[tuckgod]

Okay, I see where you're headed now. That'[s still not what CARICOM is for, but to your overall point: unfortunately there's no equivalency there to be had, so your comparison is a bit odd. If there were large numbers of black Americans in the Caribbean, if they were there for generations, working/going to school/marrying locals/facing the same challenges/moving back and forth conducting business and forging ties every time you did, then you'd have a point. Otherwise, no.




There's no need. We're here. We always have been. There's no need for statements, we're already involved. Racist Americans aren't about to care about a different accent in the same black skin, our blood gets shed the same as any.




Sure, by all means go for it. Nobody's stopping you but you.

I think we’re missing each other somewhere and this pink GG just started setting in so let’s revisit this later breh

 

[MajesticLion]

That’s your opinion on the matter, but I’m quite sure there are very many people still fighting to make it a reality... as they should.

Going through the motions, yes.

The easiest comparison I could make: imagine after the American War of Independence, England worked out a deal where some of the original thirteen US colonies were to keep the monarchy as their head of state, while ostensibly being a part of the US.

That's CARICOM. Political and economic intelligence, readily available on a platter, at leisure, to be messed with whenever. I get what you're trying to say but...it doesn't fit. I've said this on here before. If they have a Governor General in place alongside their supposedly independent government, that's the giveaway. No nation is about to successfully negotiate diplomatically for reparations, nor anything else outside the interests of the ruling entity, with the very head of state that they hold allegiance to, that owes it to them. That's just common sense.

 

[MajesticLion]

You're welcome.

What's the point?

I THINK what he and others are stating is - other ethnic groups have advocacy for reparations from the countries who enslaved their ancestors. And they should.

ADOS is now the advocacy AA/ADOS whose ancestors were enslaved in Colonial and Antebellum era U.S.

Yes, NCOBRA has been advocating for YEARS - but it wasn't specific for ADOS. And they are appreciated.

But, not since Callie House and Mr. dikkerson has there been a specific call/demand for reparations -- for descendants of the enslaved in Colonial and Antebellum era U.S only/specifically.

This is why it's important to have these discussions, for the simple fact that you get to learn from those who have walked similar paths before you. Those "advocacy" groups are infiltrated to a fare-thee-well; many of them were designed to be so.

We're talking centuries of oppression here. These people haven't been idle, they have had time to prepare watering down every single thing you can dream up to throw at them. That means you'd better be prepared. Looking to CARICOM or any similar entity, purposefully set up by the English to mitigate what they knew would be a backlash down the line, as an example of anything to emulate...I'm not exaggerating here, that's just asking for problems.

It's not as though you don't know. You've already seen this yourself here in the US, but instead of it being English/French/Spanish intelligentsia having a hand in dictating the pace of your growth, it's been Jewish interests. Or fraternities/sororities. Or Christianity or Islam by turns. Or alphabet soup org pogroms. And every time you run off thinking you've got this figured out, that you alone know your problems, that what you're going through is so unique...you net yourself like fish all over again. You've been told, again and again, for more than a century now. And you refuse to listen.


But that's fine. We're still here, and we always will be.

 

[Umoja]

Chill g, it ain’t all of them.

We better than that.

I feel your frustration though, no doubt.

This is the the retard you are responding to

12 Years a Slave is a movie that deals w/ American Chattel Slavery, a black British dude making fun of it isn't shocking, when it's a strong possibility he's Carribean and didn't have ancestors who were chattel slaves.

 

[GMoney]

Lord Jamar was playing dumb in that whole exchange.

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

This is the the retard you are responding to

That nikka is retarded
I can't take you seriously if you are that ignorant but want to shyt on black immigrants
how many other people on this site don't know this (I guarantee you there are others)?
I know there is at least one other dumbass poster
pick up a book (assuming they aren't cac agents)

12 Years a Slave is a movie that deals w/ American Chattel Slavery, a black British dude making fun of it isn't shocking, when it's a strong possibility he's Carribean and didn't have ancestors who were chattel slaves.

Jamaican Haitian dominican etc are African not black to me. They weren't descendants of slaves like black American so they diff tribe of African. We not the same tho

 

[dat aint da same sandwich]

when did he says he hates ADOS?

I swear y'all hashtag nikkas is so melodramatic

 

[NZA]

im black, everybody i know is from here, we only speak english, my last name is a boring white guy surname, most of my relatives have a southern drawl. how hard is it to know if im ADOS or not? LOL