Looks like Ridley Scott's "The Counselor" is going to be garbage. smh

[TheGodling]

...and Ridley uses his typical style of directing into which their is no suspenseful build up to anything...it just happens...which i guess he thinks the audience would feel like ...but in reality everyone in the theater was like

No, it's worse than that, Scott just doesn't have it anymore. Technically he's one of the most talented directors alive, but all the great cinematography, the acting and the camerawork can't make up for the fact his movies have been fukking soulless.

It's particularly bad here because this is written by Cormac McCarthy, a writer whose every sentence is filled with symbolism, subtext and even mysticism. So characters have very long, deeply layered conversations about the choices we make in life and the awareness of our self-destruction in the most abstract form possible, and Scott shoots it like it's just two guys talking about the weather or some shyt.

That's why it's baffling to me how most critics point at McCarthy's screenplay as the biggest problem with this movie, when to me it was clear within the first ten minutes that the problem was that Scott simply had no handle on the screenplay. So much of the story's deeper elements are wasted or lost that to quote @Renegade_Django on this:

I might just buy the screenplay/novel tie in just to re read some of the lines of dialogue will be well served to be re read to understand and soak in what McCarthy's is trying to get across.

That's not to say McCarthy is without blame because whatever he tried to do with all the sex talk, it wasn't working and just came across as forced as it was shoe-horned into nearly every dialog. With that said, the movie is so rich with quotable lines that it's crazy how generic and uneventful is.

When Ruben Blades is talking about the value of grief...

 

[Prodigital]

Was about to see this, changed my mind and saw captain phillips

 

[Wise]

The movie was terrible, probably the worst of last year. I was anticipated with everybody else off the strength of the plot and actors.

There's nothing wrong with the acting but again that shouldn't be a problem when the cast is full of well-seasoned actors. I've never seen a movie with so much pointless and prolonged scenes. Tarantino has scenes where they are a little long but at least they have either humor, purpose or tension. These scenes had absolutely neither. If they had cut 5 scenes or more in the film, it would've made absolutely no difference.

The film takes way too long to get to the point, it's way too much set-up (and it's not even set-up which is more annoying. just pointless scenes)

Whoever liked the film liked it for the sake of being different, the same purpose this film had, to be different.

 

[Rayzah]

The movie was terrible, probably the worst of last year. I was anticipated with everybody else off the strength of the plot and actors.

There's nothing wrong with the acting but again that shouldn't be a problem when the cast is full of well-seasoned actors. I've never seen a movie with so much pointless and prolonged scenes. Tarantino has scenes where they are a little long but at least they have either humor, purpose or tension. These scenes had absolutely neither. If they had cut 5 scenes or more in the film, it would've made absolutely no difference.

The film takes way too long to get to the point, it's way too much set-up (and it's not even set-up which is more annoying. just pointless scenes)

Whoever liked the film liked it for the sake of being different, the same purpose this film had, to be different.

I watched this film because a few people said it was one of their favorites of last year, in a thread about the best and worst films from 2013... them nikkas should be banned from here

 

[Roman Brady]

I watched this film because a few people said it was one of their favorites of last year, in a thread about the best and worst films from 2013... them nikkas should be banned from here

i learned way back in the sohh days never to let recommendations from posters here drive me to watch or do anything u messed up there breh

 

[duckbutta]

The unrated version of this movie does a lot to flesh out the story and characters.

And for everyone saying the story didn't make sense...it is not supposed to...that is the point of the movie...that some characters got into a drug deal that went bad...and since each character only knows the role that they played they can only perform actions around those roles...

On a second watch I enjoyed it much more the 2nd time around...to me the film had some of the goat quotables, especially the the unrated version

Bardem : You put 9 mexicans and 1 Arab in a room and give each of them 100 dollars, and come back in a few hours, who do you think is going to be holding a grand

Fassbender : Are you gearing up to do business wit hthem

Bardem : Who

Fassbender : The Arabs

Bardem : No

Fassbender: Why not

Bardem: Because they don't need your money

Fassbender:


Pitt and Fassbender had some good scenes as well

Pitt: the problem, of course, is what happens when the asurity becomes a more attractive holding

Fassbender

Movie had some of the best dialogue I've heard in a long time

 

[Bruce LeRoy]

I thought this was going to be garbage.. The first half of the movie had me like "wtf are these a$$holes going on about?" and trying to piece together what was going on.. midway through the movie really starts to come together.

A really solid flick about greed set in the American/Mexican drug trade... Only problem I had was certain scenes had too much f-cking dialogue. The few "action" scenes are really well done.. The shootout with the "cops" and the scene with Brad Pitts character in France.

 

[newarkhiphop]

It was OK reminds me of "only God forgives"

 

[MenacingMonk]

Despite the bad reviews, I decided to check out the unrated director's cut.

-They could of cut 30-45 minutes off and some dialogue was unnecessary.

-It was a slow build up for the last 30-45 minutes, which was the only interesting moments.

-Character turns weren't explained.

-Tried to dig too much into the philosophical region.

I'm at a crossroads with this movie. FYI, I didn't know the screen writer was 80 when he wrote this, his first screenplay.

 

[Roid Jones]

Below average movie, Ridley has been on a roll with these poor films for a while now

 

[OmegaK2099]

give him a break he probably still hasn't recovered from his brothers suicide

 

[kingdarius]

turned it off about 10min after cameron banged the car ....i was only in it for maybe some nude scenes of cameron or penelope and since there was none and the movie was just stupid i threw it in the recycle bin

 

[Roman Brady]

give him a break he probably still hasn't recovered from his brothers suicide

what was his excuse for his sucky films before his bro died

 

[pickles]

I just watched this movie and am like .

Wtf? I will say this movie watchable, because it is "flashy" and well shot. But wtf is this movie about? Who the fukk is the Cameron Diaz character? Why did she go to confession?
How did they know where the truck was on the road?
Who were those random nikkas that stole it?

What was that old jeweler nikka babbling about in the beginning? Talking about only civilized countries with Jews thrive?

That said Fassbender really elevated this bullshyt. That shows alot about his acting skill.He is right up there with Matthew Machonghey as one of my favorite actors now.

 

[re'up]

I'll get back with a little explanation/breakdown in an hour or so….