Looks like Ridley Scott's "The Counselor" is going to be garbage. smh

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I got an advance screening, let me say...shyt is horrible outside of Javier Bardem's 10 minutes of total screen time...
 

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Just came back from watching this...and I haven't had more mixed feelings about a movie in awhile...

1. Fassebender is just out of place here and his character is never really explained...and it should be...since out of all the "main" characters...he is the main character...

2. Javier Bardem straight killed his role and even though he is not in it very long...I don't see how he doesn't get a supporting actor nomination in this...dude was just :wow:...all his lines came so naturally that i have convinced myself that he ad-libbed all of his scenes...dude character is easily a top 10 seedy drug character in cinema...all time...period...

3. Cameron Diaz and Rosie Perez both are hideous as fukk....Every time they showed Cameron up close it had me like :whoa::damn:...and Rosie looked like my neighbor...who is a 53 year old man from Honduras...I had said I would still bust Rosie out but not after seeing her in this with no make up:scusthov:

4/ Ruben Blades scene was just :russ::russ:...the way he was talking to Fassenbender had me like...:russ::russ::russ: ...soon as this hits the net I will have to download and rip just their conversation and make ringtones out of it...

5. The dialogue was good but a lot of the characters were just mysterious for the sake of being mysterious...only Rosie and Javier characters really came off as real people...Brad Pitt seemed like he was getting paid by the minute...just wanted to rush through his lines and get the fukk out of there

In the end I give the movie a 7...but I don't really know if the scale should be out of 10...100..or a 1000...it had it's moment...and as a straight cinemafile I felt like Bardem gave me my money's worth...but the movie exposes it's plot right off the bat...does some very heavy handed foreshadowing to let you know how it will all end up...and so when it starts to go down...you just end up feeling like :manny:...and Ridley uses his typical :manny: style of directing into which their is no suspenseful build up to anything...it just happens...which i guess he thinks the audience would feel like :leon::ooh:...but in reality everyone in the theater was like :ld:

I wonder how much this will make...I went to the 3:30 showing and it was fukking packed...

And it did have one :pachaha:moment that if you see it your face will probably look exactly like pacs
 

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No surprise here. Anytime there isnt a clear story or plot in the trailer....shyt is guaranteed trash:camby:
 

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in the previews it looks like i saw diaz going down on penolope, thats all i want to see
 

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No, this definitely isn't garbage....I personally almost loved it, but there are some glaring, but not irredeemably marring flaws...It's bleak, it's ugly, excellently acted and shot, the directing is very good most of the time, with a few exceptions, it's at times goes right over the top, and that hurts it a little, Cameron Diaz's was hideously barren and empty in her role, well done, but her story arc, particularly the end was unnecessary and overreaching. Ridleys Scott's Juarez was gritty and well shot, except in a few spots, and I hated his use of comedic/light music, during a handful of scenes involving a septic truck, they needlessly took me out of the movie, and reminded me a lot of the awful scenes in 'Savages' like that. Why are poverty, desperation, 4th tier positions in organized crime funny? If it's meant to convey irony, I think it's mishandled.

Bardem outdoes his last performance with ease, as a 'club owner' and major player in over his head, Fassbender, despite some bad writing at the end, does a great job too. The bleak, obscureness of it all was very well captured, reminded me of 'Collateral', the plot isn't hard to follow, it's a few moving pieces and a lot we don't know, but we don't need too, just follow it's trajectory. Ridley Scott is subtle and artistic enough, and manages to avoid some of the failures of his other works, but he still manages to overreach by the end, it doesn't ruin it, but prevents it from being truly great. That's likely Mccarthy's fault, as some of the images he wrote, aren't as effective on film. Regardless, tense, and taut, tragic and funny, it's a great movie. Elements remind me of 'Captain Phillips', in a sense of opposing forces in conflict for almost arbitrary reasons, and the brute force of one, felt on another, without taking sides, just watching it unfold. Pitt is seamless as well, and gets a few underplayed and superbly written scenes, showcasing professionalism, weariness, cynicism, helplessness, nihilism, and tinges of regret and sympathy in a handful of brief conversations.
 

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you sound like a ridley scott apologist breh AG was massively underwhelming and KoH was :scusthov:

KoH was pretty enjoyable imo.

However by and large Ridley Scott makes shyt films, so shyt I almost refuse to believe he made Blade Runner, which is practically flawless.
 
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I can see how the movie is divisive, the dialogue is just so dense and layered, but i think if you coming into the movie as a fan of McCarthy's writing style you will for sure enjoy the movie. Come in expecting a smart sexy thriller and you'll be disappointed, this a hugely meditative and philosophical film, and I really did enjoy. I might just buy the screenplay/novel tie in just to re read some of the lines of dialogue will be well served to be re read to understand and soak in what McCarthy's is trying to get across. It's not a lot of action but the few scenes are well directed, and a lot of the death scenes are really memorable, and one in particular might be Ridley Scott's most graphic scene yet. Overall its pretty much a modern Shakespeare tragedy, if you don't care for dialogue heavy movies yea sit this one out, Its def not the easiest to set though but I loved and cant wait to see it again
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I watched the trailer and I can't seem to figure out WTF this movie is about.

Also, I don't really care to explore more about it so I guess it's just one of those movies that comes out and I never see it until years later, if even that.
 

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Confused. Thought it would be better. Lots of philosophical stuff that caught me off guard. I might watch the unofficial version if it drops.

Cameron Diaz. fukked a car. Day 1. :whew:
 
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