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Apply to be an Air traffic controller. Really this is the reason I joined this site. I'm basically one of like 2 black men/women in my building, and I'm sick of looking around my area and seeing nothing but white men and occasionally white women. This career needs more young black men.



APPLY HERE!!!!!!! It's going on now until the 27th brahs!!








FAA Air Traffic Controller Summer Hiring Announcement OTS (Off The Street): June 24-27, 2022



^^This is a good website to get started on what the hiring process generally looks like, and what you can expect




What is Air Traffic control?

Basically these are the people who are either in a tower, or a government building that talk to planes/pilots and give them clearances for takeoff.. clear them to land.. move them around weather.. basically make sure that everyone in the sky doesn't hit one another.

How much can I make with ATC?

Generally even a low level tower (think of a tiny airport near you) will make 100k+ with overtime and different differentials. But the real $$ is going to be made at either a bigger tower aka bigger airport... or with a Tracon or Center. These are the locations that cover all the other airspace in the US around the bigger airports. Think of when you're flying above the clouds 30,000 ft above the air, these are the people who are talking to the commercial airlines or even the GA pilots that take off from middle of now where airports. Once you are done with training, you will make 160k+ with increases in pay yearly.

What do I gotta do in order to get hired?

You have to input your resume on USAJobs.. and find the announcement when the days happen. To find an announcement, search for job series "2152", and make sure U.S. Citizens is marked in the "who may apply box". The job title is Air Traffic Control Specialist - Trainee, and the announcement number will be something like "FAA-ATO-16-ALLSRCE-49075". Note the "ALLSRCE", this indicates the "no experience" bid. The FAA also announces its internal bids on usajobs; if you SEE these, they are not hiring announcements for NEW hires.

What qualifications do I need?

You need to either have a 4 year degree.. a 2 year degree with 1-2 years full time work experience.. or 3 years full time work experience. You also need to be UNDER 31 YEARS OLD.

What happens after I apply?

You will wait for an email and set up a time for a test that you need to pass in order to get to the next step.. in this test there is basically a bunch of "games" and math problems that you need to do well on. Things like "separating multiple dots on a screen while also doing math problems".. and "memorizing 10 sets of numbers in order", etc. etc.

If you score high enough.. you then get an offer letter to go to Oklahoma City for 3-4 months (paid) for the FAA Academy where they teach you how to do the job in a smaller way. This part is actually pretty difficult. Won't sugar coat this part, but generally around 50% of the people who come here don't pass..... HOWEVER from what I've read they've done a much better job of being able to pass people on a more consistent basis, while also being able to pocket 3-4k while you're down there.



Why am I posting this on here?

I work in a Center.. and I'm at the bottom in terms of seniority. So anyone who generally wants to know more. Let me know.. I'll bump this as it gets closer


^^WEBSITE





Tower environment:

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Enroute environment:

careers_airtrafficcontroller_enroute_controller.jpg


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Under 31 lol. You misread the coli demographic
Maybe, but I'd assume there's gotta be some new young users or people who are just browsing the website that could take the job posting and apply.

I know the biggest thing about this career field is it's stressful.. and really it is over hyped on the stress part. The toughest part is dealing with terrible bitter coworkers, and being ok with shift work in alot of buildings.

Most schedules look like this:

2-10pm
1-9pm
7am-3pm
5am-1pm.... Followed by a very quick turnaround where you come back at 10pm until 6am, and essentially have 3.5 days off until your next shift
 

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A lot of us came from SOHH which means we :flabbynsick:

I read up on this years ago when I was with FedEx and back then it was said they would work the shyt out of you with crazy inconsistent shifts. To the point where people on the job couldn’t get time off and were falling asleep at work. Is that still the case?
 

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Isn't it one of the hardest and most stressful jobs in the world?
It's one of those jobs and careers that can be hard to LEARN but easy to DO.

The hard part is getting used to the language and technique, but once you've started to learn those things it can be generally "easy" in the sense you see the same sort of things on a daily basis with different variations
 

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It's one of those jobs and careers that can be hard to LEARN but easy to DO.

The hard part is getting used to the language and technique, but once you've started to learn those things it can be generally "easy" in the sense you see the same sort of things on a daily basis with different variations

Huh, I've heard otherwise from a friend that works at Boeing now after changing her mind about it.

Not knocking it at all, and hopefully some ppl here can get in. But idk if it's as easy/light as you're saying.
 

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Apply to be an Air traffic controller. Really this is the reason I joined this site. I'm basically one of like 2 black men/women in my building, and I'm sick of looking around my area and seeing nothing but white men and occasionally white women. This career needs more young black men.


FAA Air Traffic Controller Summer Hiring Announcement OTS (Off The Street): June 24-27, 2022



^^This is a good website to get started on what the hiring process generally looks like, and what you can expect




What is Air Traffic control?

Basically these are the people who are either in a tower, or a government building that talk to planes/pilots and give them clearances for takeoff.. clear them to land.. move them around weather.. basically make sure that everyone in the sky doesn't hit one another.

How much can I make with ATC?

Generally even a low level tower (think of a tiny airport near you) will make 100k+ with overtime and different differentials. But the real $$ is going to be made at either a bigger tower aka bigger airport... or with a Tracon or Center. These are the locations that cover all the other airspace in the US around the bigger airports. Think of when you're flying above the clouds 30,000 ft above the air, these are the people who are talking to the commercial airlines or even the GA pilots that take off from middle of now where airports. Once you are done with training, you will make 160k+ with increases in pay yearly.

What do I gotta do in order to get hired?

You have to input your resume on USAJobs.. and find the announcement when the days happen. To find an announcement, search for job series "2152", and make sure U.S. Citizens is marked in the "who may apply box". The job title is Air Traffic Control Specialist - Trainee, and the announcement number will be something like "FAA-ATO-16-ALLSRCE-49075". Note the "ALLSRCE", this indicates the "no experience" bid. The FAA also announces its internal bids on usajobs; if you SEE these, they are not hiring announcements for NEW hires.

What qualifications do I need?

You need to either have a 4 year degree.. a 2 year degree with 1-2 years full time work experience.. or 3 years full time work experience. You also need to be UNDER 31 YEARS OLD.

What happens after I apply?

You will wait for an email and set up a time for a test that you need to pass in order to get to the next step.. in this test there is basically a bunch of "games" and math problems that you need to do well on. Things like "separating multiple dots on a screen while also doing math problems".. and "memorizing 10 sets of numbers in order", etc. etc.

If you score high enough.. you then get an offer letter to go to Oklahoma City for 3-4 months (paid) for the FAA Academy where they teach you how to do the job in a smaller way. This part is actually pretty difficult. Won't sugar coat this part, but generally around 50% of the people who come here don't pass..... HOWEVER from what I've read they've done a much better job of being able to pass people on a more consistent basis, while also being able to pocket 3-4k while you're down there.



Why am I posting this on here?

I work in a Center.. and I'm at the bottom in terms of seniority. So anyone who generally wants to know more. Let me know.. I'll bump this as it gets closer


^^WEBSITE





Tower environment:

aviation_South-Air-Traffic-Control-Tower_featured_01-1.jpg


was_career_atco_07.jpg



Enroute environment:

careers_airtrafficcontroller_enroute_controller.jpg


traffic_f.jpg
What’s the location? I’m highly considering this :jbhmm:
 

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I know a retired ATC and he told me literally the same thing but I was 31 already.
 

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A lot of us came from SOHH which means we :flabbynsick:

I read up on this years ago when I was with FedEx and back then it was said they would work the shyt out of you. To the point where people on the job couldn’t get time off and were falling asleep at work. Is that still the case?
Certain facilities have a bad body count because the FAA is generally terrible at advertising so it's not super well known and training can take a few years to complete.

In some areas (like New York) you can work 6 day work weeks..... While also making 250-300k a year.

While in TX you could work a normal 40 and never be on the OT list and make 165k+ and be content
 
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