Looking back at Nas in the Summer of 2002

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One of his better decisions was throwing Irv in the bushes when he tried to get him to roll through Baltimore stunting and eating fried chicken.

Nas is a humble rapper…


You didn’t see him getting robbed like that.


QB made sure to protect their “investment”.
 

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Jay woke up a sleeping giant…He brought this on himself.

Nas went scorched earth on Jay and anyone associated with him.

Cam was caught in the middle of that and he didn’t really mess with Jay that much. He was a casualty of war.


You could tell that Cam was a big fan of Nas and it broke his heart when he dissed him.


Nas still provided comedy during this era though
 

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Nas was on his Pac shyt that year. He did burn bridges especially calling out payola. It's wild he had a couple big hits on rap radio every time he dropped until he called that out :mjpls:

But he also went a flagrant anti commercial direction 2004-2008. Regardless what you think of the quality of the songs. Bridging The Gap, Just A Moment, HHID and Can't Forget About You was totally out if step with everything that was hot in that era. But for real, who cares? His 1994-2002 solidified him. Dude dropped Stillmatic, Lost Tapes and God's Son in 12 months. He could have retired after that and been top 10.

Nas was calling out the Roc nut huggers like Flex….


Looking back on it, a lot of those records aged badly.


Nas was probably one of the main artists who wasn’t afraid of putting social commentary in his music without it being corny or forced
 

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Nas was calling out the Roc nut huggers like Flex….


Looking back on it, a lot of those records aged badly.


Nas was probably one of the main artists who wasn’t afraid of putting social commentary in his music without it being corny or forced

Yup. Flex, Angie Martinez and the whole Hot 97 crew sucked off Def Jam non stop from 1998-2004 when Liles and Cohen was in charge. Especially Roc-A-Fella artists. Because that's what they was paid to do.

It's hilarious these dudes that's so obsessed with radio hits never admit Nas got plenty airplay on rap radio, right up to the point he called out the stations and DJs for being pay for play bums.
 

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Nas in Summer 2002 was when everything lined up for him. He had the streets, the commercial success, and the critical acclaim. He explained why he was moving how he was at the time on the album and in interviews.

People got mad at Nas for criticizing Nore, Nelly, and Cam, but be wishing more rappers would do it. I never got that stance because the fall out from Nas calling out Nore, Nelly, and Cam is the exact reason why rappers don't and shouldn't call other rappers out because the artists and fans aren't going to take it well especially when it is perceived as a diss.
 

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Dude and his stans thought he was the 🤴 after that battle but shyt sold like 118k first week. Blew all that good will after his W and aint been looked at on that level ever since. 2002 was a bad year for Nas

It sold 118K because it dropped on Friday 13. It was supposed to drop on December 18. So he sold 118K in four days with the short notice.

2002 was a bad year for Jay and was one of Nas's best years. I see you still haven't recovered and still have PTSD having to wake up everyday to fight a battle that Jay lost decades ago even though both he and Nas have moved past it.
 

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Nas in Summer 2002 was when everything lined up for him. He had the streets, the commercial success, and the critical acclaim. He explained why he was moving how he was at the time on the album and in interviews.

People got mad at Nas for criticizing Nore, Nelly, and Cam, but be wishing more rappers would do it. I never got that stance because the fall out from Nas calling out Nore, Nelly, and Cam is the exact reason why rappers don't and shouldn't call other rappers out because the artists and fans aren't going to take it well especially when it is perceived as a diss.

I think Nas touched on that in the FEDS interview…


Nas was seeing where the game was goin.

Expecting Prime Cam who was a Big A Hole in his prime to speak on social issues is like trying to get a Muslim to eat Pork.


When u have legends and younger cats going in on each other, that’s when things are becoming a problem. I can why Nas dissed Nelly too.

Nelly was right when he called out KRS, a rapper from St. Louie ain’t gonna let a East Coast nikka diss em like that especially one who always has to say Real Hip Hop
 

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It sold 118K because it dropped on Friday 13. It was supposed to drop on December 18. So he sold 118K in four days with the short notice.

2002 was a bad year for Jay and was one of Nas's best years. I see you still haven't recovered and still have PTSD having to wake up everyday to fight a battle that Jay lost decades ago even though both he and Nas have moved past it.


Jay was still feeling the effects from Winter 2001…


He’ll be ok. He knew what Drake felt like too.


Only difference is that Jay backed down and staged that fake retirement.


He wasn’t gonna let a another Queens nikka son him twice
 

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Only difference is that Jay backed down and staged that fake retirement.


He wasn’t gonna let a another Queens nikka son him twice

Nah, he didn't back down. He LOST.

He tried to make more comeback joints for "Ether". People barely heard them. So no matter what he was gonna do, the L was already the L. He had to admit that Nas got him, which he did. You gotta let the people call it. There were people riding with Jay, but it wasn't even close. Nas got him.

So he dropped another couple albums and retired two years later, but only from solo sh*t on Roc because he still did another joint with R. Kelly and Linkin Park. The real reason he "retired" was because he wanted to break away from Dame and do the "exec" rebrand thing that LA Reid and them had planned for him. He wanted to bring in Dre to do his whole next album and end the Roc era. None of that had anything to do with Nas. Jay sold 4 million albums on TBA and needed to basically sever all ties with Roc brass to start all over with Kingdom Come, which was probably his wackest album.
 
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