The irony of all of this is Zack Snyder. He produced the watchmen which had Ozymandias
if they portrayed Batman with the same skill set it would probably work. And Alfred being the get out of jail free card gets old after a while.
Look... DC breh's need to face facts.
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The irony of all of this is Zack Snyder. He produced the watchmen which had Ozymandias
if they portrayed Batman with the same skill set it would probably work. And Alfred being the get out of jail free card gets old after a while.
Iron Man is human..lol
Why is Batman being compared to Widow or Hawkeye instead of Captain America, who is his more direct analog and whom no one has any problem with being in the Avengers?
Also, let's not do the whole "the Justice League are idiots without Batman." That shyt ain't true and is usually said by Batman fans insecure about his place on the team. Yes, Batman is the team strategist, but the rest of the League are all very intelligent and capable as superheroes.
Also also, it's a fukking movie. They can sell us on anything with the right writing.
Also, let's not do the whole "the Justice League are idiots without Batman." That shyt ain't true and is usually said by Batman fans insecure about his place on the team. Yes, Batman is the team strategist, but the rest of the League are all very intelligent and capable as superheroes.
Also also, it's a fukking movie. They can sell us on anything with the right writing.
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Part of the problem is they overpowered the hell out of Superman in these recent movies - all for the sake for some cool looking action scenes. But after those action scenes are done, none of the situations make sense anymore.
It's the same problem in the Flash TV show. The writer's can't control themselves so, from the jump, they write him so fast he can go back in time. But then they've written themselves into a corner so they pretend having him literally trip over marbles makes sense.
The worst part about the writers blowing their loads too early is that the hero's never earned their power levels. Imagine if in Man of Steel 3 or Justice League 2 we got a scene like this:
It doesn't make sense now cause everyone's OP'ed because it looked cool on Snyder's storyboards. So yeah, Batman's never gonna make sense in that world. Let alone these movies have never demonstrated his genius intellect.
It's the same problem in the Flash TV show. The writer's can't control themselves so, from the jump, they write him so fast he can go back in time. But then they've written themselves into a corner so they pretend having him literally trip over marbles makes sense.
The worst part about the writers blowing their loads too early is that the hero's never earned their power levels. Imagine if in Man of Steel 3 or Justice League 2 we got a scene like this:
It doesn't make sense now cause everyone's OP'ed because it looked cool on Snyder's storyboards. So yeah, Batman's never gonna make sense in that world. Let alone these movies have never demonstrated his genius intellect.
Capt has superhuman strength, reflexes and endurance
he's a legit superheroLike that means shyt when he's fighting Thanos.Capt has superhuman strength, reflexes and endurance
Which is what this whole conversation is about. Regular humans fighting alongside superpowered beings against superpowered threats. Capt may have the super soldier serum, but in the context of the conversation, he's no different than Batman.
(Not to mention that whenever DC and Marvel did crossovers, they usually paired the two together. So even the companies involved view them as analogs)
In the end, it doesn't matter. It's a story. They can write around it. This is a silly complaint.
No. Cap is peak human. He is as strong and as fast as a human could be without being a superhuman. Like if you combined Usain Bolt, Lebron James, and the world strongest man.Capt has superhuman strength, reflexes and endurance
"No prep time in movies" but prep time was exactly the reason he was about to kill superman
Man at this point cap is stronger than wolverine. Takes punches and kicks from iron man and barely gets a bloody lip
You think that a comic book peak human is analogous to a real world peak human???
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"No prep time in movies" but prep time was exactly the reason he was about to kill superman
Man at this point cap is stronger than wolverine. Takes punches and kicks from iron man and barely gets a bloody lip
This was basically the coolest scene in all the DC movies to this point, but this shyt is light work compared to most Marvel flicks...
Would have been cool to just see them do a full Batman reboot with Batfleck
That may be the narrative of the comics but in the movies he's holding back moving helicopters. That is legit superstregnth and more than you can get away with Batman doing.
I would disagree. A live action Bruce Wayne could have worked alongside his godlike teammates for reasons others have already argued. The DCEU just handled him poorly in making him so ineffective. Just like they made the rest of the team seem useless once superman showed up.
With that being said, I wouldn't have gone that route. Instead, I would have made Bruce Wayne the Nick Fury / Oracle of the group and had Terry McGinnis take his place on the team itself in an ironman-esque batsuit. As Cyborg already covers both of these roles, this would be contingent on replacing him with John Stewart
This way, you have a Bruce Wayne who is still integral to the Justice League without too much of a stretch; and you have a batman who isn't useless in action scenes alongside people with superpowers
With that being said, I wouldn't have gone that route. Instead, I would have made Bruce Wayne the Nick Fury / Oracle of the group and had Terry McGinnis take his place on the team itself in an ironman-esque batsuit. As Cyborg already covers both of these roles, this would be contingent on replacing him with John Stewart
This way, you have a Bruce Wayne who is still integral to the Justice League without too much of a stretch; and you have a batman who isn't useless in action scenes alongside people with superpowers
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Not in the justice league. Lex is more of the brain of the operation