Look at bobby shmurda

[Pool_Shark]

It was uncomfortable watching that but the worst part is some of my favorite artist have probably had similar moments it just wasn't recorded. Guess everyone wanting to make it in entertainment has a price.

 

[L. Deezy]

Just to be clear, when IS his performance (or a performance like it) acceptable/not acceptable?

Is it that he shouldn't be performing like Bobby Shmurda at ALL in front of ANYONE or is it that he shouldn't be performing like Bobby Shmurda THERE at Epic?

Had it been a room with LA Reid and a bunch of black execs, would the video have been a problem or do the white execs make the difference? If it had been all black execs and ONE white exec, would that have changed anything?

Let's say Bobby continues to blow like Kanye did and the fans at his shows change to younger white people from the suburbs (we know this happens), would the feelings about him doing the Shmoney dance change? Should he retire it if he gains mainstream crossover appeal?

How do we feel about Kanye doing the Jesus Walks dance and all of the other antics he pulls off in front of his concert fans (mostly white)? Would they be less c00nish if the audience were black?

Just trying to be clear on all sides here.

Basically, what I was saying

Seems like people more embarrased its in front of a mostly white audience of professional whites

 

[L. Deezy]

It was uncomfortable watching that but the worst part is some of my favorite artist have probably had similar moments it just wasn't recorded. Guess everyone wanting to make it in entertainment has a price.

I agree 100

 

[The G.O.D II]

are those dance rappers?

you havent been able to counter or answer any questions and then when using other dance artists, you turtle up in the discussion and begin personal insults. therefore what your stupid fukking opinion on what is intellectually stupid (wtf?) is invalid. you are incapable of even seeing how entertainers as a whole prance around for ridiculous deals without any attachment to a race, while trying to call one out for racial undertones that arent there other than you perceiving it as c00ning when it fact he was not forced into participating in the extra festivities (the actual definition of c00ning btw, write that down), it was premeditated and calculated for emphasis.

Ive countered everything you've said. You are the one bringing up other artist of other races when it's not about them to move goalposts. You are the one bringing up chicken, watermelon, and other racial stereotypes to deflect. You are all over the place. You say its bad and over the top but stop short of calling it c00ning because no one asked him. First off you don't know that. Second, if its true THATS EVEN WORSE nikka. So he c00ns on command? Thats pathetic. Now go reply with some shyt about beiber and grape soda to deflect.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

Ive countered everything you've said. You are the one bringing up other artist of other races when it's not about them to move goalposts. You are the one bringing up chicken, watermelon, and other racial stereotypes to deflect. You are all over the place. You say its bad and over the top but stop short of calling it c00ning because no one asked him. First off you don't know that. Second, if its true THATS EVEN WORSE nikka. So he c00ns on command? Thats pathetic. Now go reply with some shyt about beiber and grape soda to deflect.

Thats not the definition of c00ning.

define c00ning.

here is where shyt gets interesting. :mjlolz:

 

[director_of_bands]

Just to be clear, when IS his performance (or a performance like it) acceptable/not acceptable?

Is it that he shouldn't be performing like Bobby Shmurda at ALL in front of ANYONE or is it that he shouldn't be performing like Bobby Shmurda THERE at Epic?

Had it been a room with LA Reid and a bunch of black execs, would the video have been a problem or do the white execs make the difference? If it had been all black execs and ONE white exec, would that have changed anything?

Let's say Bobby continues to blow like Kanye did and the fans at his shows change to younger white people from the suburbs (we know this happens), would the feelings about him doing the Shmoney dance change? Should he retire it if he gains mainstream crossover appeal?

How do we feel about Kanye doing the Jesus Walks dance and all of the other antics he pulls off in front of his concert fans (mostly white)? Would they be less c00nish if the audience were black?

Just trying to be clear on all sides here.

are these same execs putting out any non destructive music to the same demographc that bobby's music is pushed on? ill answer that for you....no :huhhuh:

 

[AkaDemiK]

you know what 10 racks would make half of you do, now put a mill up, I bet youd jump on that table with a banana. put up a front all you want, bans will make ya dance.

nah, i'm not tap dancing for no muthafukka on planet earth...especially not a room full of old crackas who can't wait to meet by the water cooler and go "wasn't that ****** great at moving his feet?"...I made it this far in life being able to look myself in the mirror and not feel ashamed of myself...they would have to drop some zeros off that check to watch me perform how I want to....and if that's not good enough...they can eat a dikk....

I don't even fukk with bobby's music outside of a club...but now...I literally have no respect for duke....none....

 

[Big Boss]

 

[Darealtwo1]

Dance nicca! Dance!

yessir massa

 

[The_Sheff]

The race of the people in the audience doesnt matter, Im not about to tap dance on a fukking table for anyone!

 

[DarkmanX]

I don't even really blame him, as much. He's a young naive dude doing what he thinks it's going to take to get him out the hood.

The disgust on my end is watching a dude basically dance around and recite ignorance ass lyrics about committing violence against other people of color, while trying to impress and earn the approval of a bunch of white people (and LA Reid), as a result of a certain corporate structure and environment that they have created. I dunno man, the visual of that is just disturbing.

But just goes to show how the corporations have taken a culture that started on the streets and hijacked it for profit and monetization. This whole charade is a result of the corporations systematically feeding us bullshyt ignorance and tricking us into thinking it's what we objectively enjoy. Sad part is, kids go around reciting these dumb ass lyrics all day and acts of violence and trapping are "cool" to them and it's something they aspire to emulate. Hip hop is the single most destructive force for impoverished minorities right now because it not only numbs them to the reality of their situation (the fact that the cards are stacked against them) and acts as a blindfold to what's really going on, but it actually has a whole generation of people WANTING to be the next Bobby Shmurda, when he's just another pawn used to perpetuate this cycle of ignorance. The hood's idolization of pop culture and hip hop is so dumb. These corporations gladly stepped in and obliged by essentially saying "well if you're gonna look up to these rappers and their music as heroes, let us feed you the most ignorant shyt possible from behind the scenes and that way they do the dirty work for us and keep you at bay in your little project tenement while you shmurda dance for some free government cheese and milk"

I hope you realize this was the same during the 90s right? Oh, but is anynbody crying? Nope, cuz it's NOW "golden age" (in hindsight).

All this talk of how corps have taking over NOW is the funniest shyt ever. They been around since hip-hop became popular & they saw a growing busienss and started to INVEST - hence the big acts & big marketing starting in the 90s(!!!!).

What yall thought, rappers just rap about brands? No, they get paid by those same "corps" too. But noooooooooobody complained then. Early 00's - same shyt. Mid 00's - same shyt. Nobody complained when all rappers in the 90s rocked certain clothes in order to market them via their fans etc etc etc etc. Now the excuse as some of you feel hip-hop is not for you its "cuz of white people" or "corporate people". shyt is bonkers.

Im not saying this necessarily applies to you but im speaking in general but that includes forums like this who dont do shyt but pay attention & give attention to artist like this in order to be "internet comedians", "trolls" or whatever and then act suprised as they blow up.

Corps are INVESTORS - black & white. Have been around for years. They see a growing marketing & business evolved and they invest. That's real estate.

 

[labrokejames]

I've never seen anything c00nier than this. All that's missing is his bell hop outfit and a change cup.:cooming:

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Basically, what I was saying

Seems like people more embarrased its in front of a mostly white audience of professional whites

I'm embarrassed because of how fake it all is.

Bobby is selling an image that white execs think will be profitable while pushing lyrics that advocate the worse behavior within our own communities.

And to think, that NONE of them like the music.

None of them.

In fact, I'm sure all of them go home and tell their kids NOT to act that way.

I feel sick for even supporting that silly dance to the degree I did.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I hope you realize this was the same during the 90s right? Oh, but is anynbody crying? Nope, cuz it's NOW "golden age" (in hindsight).

All this talk of how corps have taking over NOW is the funniest shyt ever. They been around since hip-hop became popular & they saw a growing busienss and started to INVEST - hence the big acts & big marketing starting in the 90s(!!!!).

What yall thought, rappers just rap about brands? No, they get paid by those same "corps" too. But noooooooooobody complained then. Early 00's - same shyt. Mid 00's - same shyt. Nobody complained when all rappers in the 90s rocked certain clothes in order to market them via their fans etc etc etc etc. Now the excuse as some of you feel hip-hop is not for you its "cuz of white people" or "corporate people". shyt is bonkers.

Im not saying this necessarily applies to you but im speaking in general but that includes forums like this who dont do shyt but pay attention & give attention to artist like this in order to be "internet comedians", "trolls" or whatever and then act suprised as they blow up.

Corps are INVESTORS - black & white. Have been around for years. They see a growing marketing & business evolved and they invest. That's real estate.

Yep.

The Golden Age was probably even worse since the access to the market was more streamlined. Yes, the content was newer, but the acts everyone knows of were vetted, groomed, and processed. Even the most "gutter" ones.

Hip-Hop itself is all about consumerism. All forms of music is. Its made to sell an image and an inclusive culture that people can and identify with as brand classes.

I suggest people watch Adam Curtis' documentary "CENTURY OF THE SELF"

 

[Still FloW]

Looks like an audition. imo if this was Miley Cyrus or Beiber doing this, yall would be mad and calling this vulturism. Nothing about a dancing monkey would be coming out your mouf.

But when its black, it always gotta be something else.

hmm let me see..

room full of old ass white people.. CHECK
room full of old ass white people who CLEARLY know nothing about rap... CHECK
one nikka dancing his ass off like a c00n... CHECK
one nikka doing helicopter impressions and gun blasting actions to white people.. CHECK

Of course your uncle tom ass doesnt see the ignorance in all that os happening in that room...

go dance like a hoe to earn that paycheck