Lomachenko-Lopez World Lightweight Championship Set, October 17 In Las Vegas - ESPN

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this bytch ass nikka said he wants Ramirez next. :laff:

I swear to god I have never seen anyone avoid a fighter like they do Haney. bob aint gonna have any of his fighters fight him for the next 2 years. cause he dont want them to......

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this bytch ass nikka said he wants Ramirez next. :laff:

I swear to god I have never seen anyone avoid a fighter like they do Haney. bob aint gonna have any of his fighters fight him for the next 2 years. cause he dont want them to......

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Teo been talking about moving up, and I'm definitely taking undisputed @ 140, Gervonta, or Ryan Garcia before Haney honestly.

Haney is bound to move up sooner than later too.:yeshrug:
 

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Teo been talking about moving up, and I'm definitely taking undisputed @ 140, Gervonta, or Ryan Garcia before Haney honestly.

Haney is bound to move up sooner than later too.:yeshrug:
You'd fight guys without belts over a guy who has your needed undisputed belt at 135?
 

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You'd fight guys without belts over a guy who has your needed undisputed belt at 135?

Break it down for me, why does Teofimo need Haney's 'belt' to be undisputed? Haney got upgraded to champion because Loma was made the franchise champ. Does that hierarchy not matter?

I genuinely haven't kept up with the implications the WBC franchise has on undisputed, but shouldn't Teo be considered the legitimate undisputed champ?

Anyways, Gervonta is about to become a PPV fighter, Garcia is going to attract a big payday, while Haney is fighting a shot Gamboa on a nearly defunct network. Teo strung together incredible knockouts, including knocking out Commey for the IBF title, before he could fight Lomachenko, AND THEN he pulls off the UPSET on ESPN. Haney had a boring azz fight against a nobody on the Billy Joe Saunders card, and actually fought before Logan Paul if I'm not mistaken.:francis:

If I'm Teofimo, and all my life's work culminated in the win yesterday, hell the fukk yeah I'm taking the more lucrative fights over a green azz unknown azz Haney. Let him get his name up.:yeshrug:
 

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Break it down for me, why does Teofimo need Haney's 'belt' to be undisputed? Haney got upgraded to champion because Loma was made the franchise champ. Does that hierarchy not matter?

I genuinely haven't kept up with the implications the WBC franchise has on undisputed, but shouldn't Teo be considered the legitimate undisputed champ?
Haney was upgraded because Loma begged for franchise instead of actually fighting his mandatory in haney. Franchise champ in its original form was made for someone like canelo who moves up and down divisions and wouldn't have the ability to actually defend his title. Loma and Top rank conspired and begged for " franchise champ" in order to actually not fight haney. So i guess if you think its ok that a boxing sanction created a fake belt in order to satisfy a promoter so they could in the future duck and close out competition im with that :manny:. I think we as fans shouldn't accept that and demand better, it was also sold originally as non transferable now its been retroactively made as a transferable belt. WBA IBF AND RING dont even recognize the franchise belt, its literally some fake shyt in order to duck mandatories. Its the same corny shyt dudes did to lil charlo and Errol Spence, instead its just an additional excuse to duck
 
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Haney was upgraded because Loma begged for franchise instead of actually fighting his mandatory in haney. Franchise champ in its original form was made for someone like canelo who moves up and down divisions and wouldn't have the ability to actually defend his title. Loma and Top rank conspired and begged for " franchise champ" in order to actually not fight haney. So i guess if you think its ok that a boxing sanction created a fake belt in order to satisfy a promoter so they could in the future duck and close out competition im with that :manny:. I think we as fans shouldn't accept that and demand better.

Ok fair enough, I agree that shyt is goofy.

But on the other hand, who did Haney actually beat for that belt? Loma might've ducked him, but I don't remember Haney actually beating another ranked fighter for that belt, and I have a hard time recognizing him as the champ when the belt was essentially just gifted to him. I don't think it's okay for a fighter to be given a belt, especially when they're only 21 and didn't have to pass the test of actually being in a championship fight.:yeshrug:

This is why the organizations need to be taken apart though. It's ridiculous what a fighter has to do to unify, but now we can't even fully crown an undisputed champion.:hhh:
 

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Ok fair enough, I agree that shyt is goofy.

But on the other hand, who did Haney actually beat for that belt? Loma might've ducked him, but I don't remember Haney actually beating another ranked fighter for that belt, and I have a hard time recognizing him as the champ when the belt was essentially just gifted to him. I don't think it's okay for a fighter to be given a belt, especially when they're only 21 and didn't have to pass the test of actually being in a championship fight.:yeshrug:

This is why the organizations need to be taken apart though. It's ridiculous what a fighter has to do to unify, but now we can't even fully crown an undisputed champion.:hhh:
He beat Antonio moran who was #3 at the time when he was #2. Somehow Luke Campbell jumped him in the rankings and the WBC recognized it and promised he would get the winner. Once Loma won that belt Loma was recognized shortly after as franchise in his own division and top rank effectively cock blocked haney in never getting a real title shot :deadrose:. You can't be in a championship fight if boxing organizations is actively stopping fighters from climbing up the ranks. If you remember it was supposed to actually be teofimo versus haney for the wbc eliminator tourney, top rank delisted him in the rankings and sent him over to ibf , to be fed to comey:mjlol:. Whole shyt is corrupt.
 

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Ok fair enough, I agree that shyt is goofy.

But on the other hand, who did Haney actually beat for that belt? Loma might've ducked him, but I don't remember Haney actually beating another ranked fighter for that belt, and I have a hard time recognizing him as the champ when the belt was essentially just gifted to him. I don't think it's okay for a fighter to be given a belt, especially when they're only 21 and didn't have to pass the test of actually being in a championship fight.:yeshrug:

This is why the organizations need to be taken apart though. It's ridiculous what a fighter has to do to unify, but now we can't even fully crown an undisputed champion.:hhh:

Everyone but Gamboa is ducking, after this fight Haney might have to retire because Campbell, Lopez, Garcia, and Loma are all ducking him and those are the fighters in his class, no one else.
 

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how are they before Haney when he was the wbc champion first because Loma wanted no smoke

Make it make business sense for me.

Haney is the 'champ,' but Loma was the 'franchise' ranked top 3 P4P on most lists.

The Haney fight doesn't need to happen next for either fighters legacy. They are both clearly going to move up to 140, with Haney potentially becoming a better fighter than he is today, and certainly a larger draw down the line. He's not a more lucrative fight than either Gervonta or Ryan Garcia at this point.
 

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He beat Antonio moran who was #3 at the time when he was #2. Somehow Luke Campbell jumped him in the rankings and the WBC recognized it and promised he would get the winner. Once Loma won that belt Loma was recognized shortly after as franchise in his own division and top rank effectively cock blocked haney in never getting a real title shot :deadrose:. You can't be in a championship fight if boxing organizations is actively stopping fighters from climbing up the ranks. If you remember it was supposed to actually be teofimo versus haney for the wbc eliminator tourney, top rank delisted him in the rankings and sent him over to ibf , to be fed to comey:mjlol:. Whole shyt is corrupt.

Good shyt, I'm looking at the current rankings and seeing a few names that Haney has beat or will face. Some good names that he could face as well.
 
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