LOL @ Floyd's twitter post

[seemorecizzy]

im sure its not as simple as just "Making The Fight", i was just talkin shxt. Back then when floyd offered manny the 40 mil, manny was on top of his game, he wasnt finna take those 40 mil and get NONE of the PPV when he was also a big star too, so i can see his reason for declining that offer back then. Now is a diff story and i wouldnt expect manny to get close to that piece of the pie with his last PPV #'s. When i say ,Make the fight floyd, i mean sit down and realisticaly discuss this and do some honest negotiations this time around to get it done...enough with the excuses. Whatever it takes to get it done, both camps should put their best effort and make it happen somehow. AS far as the split goes, i think 65/35 would be pretty fair based on the last few PPV #s, 55/45 is out of the question tho

if you cant make 40 mill in one fight
you have no business turning down 40 mil for one fight
its really as simple as that.
40 mil was very generous since Floyd/golden boy do all da work as far as promotion and build up and its by far da most he's ever made.
Floyd knows how bob arum works and doesn't wanna work with him
just his fighter
like I said, its very complicated
not as simple as "lets fight".
I wish it was, but at da same time I definitely see floyds side
he has a deal where he keeps ALLL the revenue from da event
a deal he worked for, and earned. why in da hell would he spilt that with pacquaio and worse yet bob arum who stole millions from him and said he would never reach this level?

 

[Champ_KW]

bro u explainin this as if i dont know this. Of course floyd has every right to give whateva reason for not fighting pac, thats his choice, but at the same time why post up pics clownin the man when he aint tryna even hear any discussions about fightin manny? just leave it alone and let it die if thats the case. and i agree, Manny isnt on floyds level and floyd would beat him pretty easy if they fought..and thats the main reason im tired of the back n forth excuses cause i want floyd to get in the ring and show the rest of these casual boxing fans that think Manny is fukkin with floyd what time it is. i never said Manny is floyds "legacy" fight, i could care less bout that, im just a boxing fan and manny is the guy that most fans want to see floyd fight, its time to put up or shut up about it.

Realistically outside of Arum's masterful promotional job what makes Pac "the best fight" out there for Floyd? He just did 2 million with Canelo. He probably has Wembley Stadium aspirations with Khan, who knows? This dude is on his award tour right now and people are acting like a near 2 decade run is incomplete without fighting a guy that's 1-2 his last 3 fights? I don't get it.

 

[Newzz]

you make it sound so simple
and its not
if Floyd offered many money again, it would be less than 40
if you no anything about floyds deal, you would no that this 50/50 55/45 spilt aint happening
Floyd will end up losing money plus pacquaio don't deserve it

I mean hes comin off a 500 k ppv

How many PPVs were Victor Ortiz, Robert Guerrero, Canelo Alvarez, or Amir Khan coming off of?

If Canelo, who has nowhere near Manny's fanbase and has never sold a PPV in his life, was guaranteed 12 million for the fight while Floyd got 41.5 mill guaranteed (a 77.5%/22.5% split in favor of Floyd), why wouldnt Manny deserve around a 65/35 split (12.5% more than Canelo because he would help generate almost 2x more revenue than Canelo) on a 100 million fight rather than a 53.5 mill fight that Canelo/Floyd brought to the table?


You cant argue that, because EVERYONE knows the money is there for a Floyd/Manny fight. 65 million for Floyd, 35 mill for Manny plus a 70/30 split for PPV in favor of Floyd.

The fight IS makeable, however Floyd is saying flat out that he will never do business with Bob Arum

 

[Newzz]

if you cant make 40 mill in one fight
you have no business turning down 40 mil for one fight
its really as simple as that.
40 mil was very generous since Floyd/golden boy do all da work as far as promotion and build up and its by far da most he's ever made.
Floyd knows how bob arum works and doesn't wanna work with him
just his fighter
like I said, its very complicated
not as simple as "lets fight".
I wish it was, but at da same time I definitely see floyds side
he has a deal where he keeps ALLL the revenue from da event
a deal he worked for, and earned. why in da hell would he spilt that with pacquaio and worse yet bob arum who stole millions from him and said he would never reach this level?

He split PPV revenue with Canelo who has never sold a PPV in his life......no way he can say that Manny doesnt deserve any money off of PPV sales.

 

[DigitalDopeman]

if you cant make 40 mill in one fight
you have no business turning down 40 mil for one fight
its really as simple as that.
40 mil was very generous since Floyd/golden boy do all da work as far as promotion and build up and its by far da most he's ever made.
Floyd knows how bob arum works and doesn't wanna work with him
just his fighter
like I said, its very complicated
not as simple as "lets fight".
I wish it was, but at da same time I definitely see floyds side
he has a deal where he keeps ALLL the revenue from da event
a deal he worked for, and earned. why in da hell would he spilt that with pacquaio and worse yet bob arum who stole millions from him and said he would never reach this level?

i feel where u comin from, but from an ego stand point...if you were the 2nd most recognized fighter, would u let the other fighter give u a flat amount and cut you out of 100% of the PPV profits when your name will be part of the reason why some fans buy the PPV?Ima floyd fan and feel like he should get the lion share of course, but from a biz standpoint, i wldnt let someone give me a flat fee and keep the rest to themselves, if at that time I am the 2nd biggest draw. i know its not an easy fight to make, with all the animosity and bad biz between bob and floyd...but if the fight aint happening, then i feel like floyd shldnt be pokin fun or bringin up pacs name...just let it go and keep it movin.

 

[Newzz]

This dude is on his award tour right now and people are acting like a near 2 decade run is incomplete without fighting a guy that's 1-2 his last 3 fights? I don't get it.

Since when did we start going by last 3 fights? Besides, Manny is about to fight again. If he fights and wins, he will be 2-1 in his "last 3 fights", what will be Floyd's excuse then?

"Needs to avenge his losses?" Why is Khan an option or Ortiz was an option or Cotto or Mosley or JMM or ODLH or Judah or etc?

"Last 3 fights?" Manny is about to be 2-1 in his last 3 fights very soon....just like Khan

"What does he bring to the table" Manny is a PPV fighter. He brings more money to the table than any fighter Floyd has ever fought.....even ODLH

There is no way someone can be comfortable with Floyd fighting Amir Khan, Victor Ortiz, and Robert Guerrero, but NOT fighting Manny Pacquiao

 

[DigitalDopeman]

Realistically outside of Arum's masterful promotional job what makes Pac "the best fight" out there for Floyd? He just did 2 million with Canelo. He probably has Wembley Stadium aspirations with Khan, who knows? This dude is on his award tour right now and people are acting like a near 2 decade run is incomplete without fighting a guy that's 1-2 his last 3 fights? I don't get it.

i never said his run is incomplete with or without paquaio..u aint talkin to one of these floyd haters or die hard pac fans homie, im just a boxing fan, and this is the fight people want to see. Khan is 3-2 in his last 5 and so is pac. Im sure regardless of who Floyd fights it will do #s. I want the fight to happen to end the discussions of "Who will win"....all that shoulda ,coulda,woulda shyt is for the birds. Floyd just said in an interview on fight hype in regards to his next opponent " If its Manny, its Manny...if its Khan, iits Khan"...then turns around and says he wont fight manny because of bob. All the contradictions is my problem. I think floyd would wash manny, but either be str8 up or stop bringin it up and contradicting himself.

 

[seemorecizzy]

i feel where u comin from, but from an ego stand point...if you were the 2nd most recognized fighter, would u let the other fighter give u a flat amount and cut you out of 100% of the PPV profits when your name will be part of the reason why some fans buy the PPV?Ima floyd fan and feel like he should get the lion share of course, but from a biz standpoint, i wldnt let someone give me a flat fee and keep the rest to themselves, if at that time I am the 2nd biggest draw. i know its not an easy fight to make, with all the animosity and bad biz between bob and floyd...but if the fight aint happening, then i feel like floyd shldnt be pokin fun or bringin up pacs name...just let it go and keep it movin.

if arum and pacquaio were doing the same, I would leave it alone too. But arum and pacquaio bring up Floyd name on a REGULAR basis and always use him to promote their upcoming fights. if he want to make a comment every now and then, I don't see the problem

I still stand by my "if u can't make 40 mil, u cant turn down 40 mil" theory but we'll agree to disagree.
you cant turn down 40 mil to go fight for 25-30 mil and then claim da other fighter is scared. the flat rate was high enough. I bet if Floyd offered 35 mil with ppv than pacquaio would felt more better about da deal. He's just a bad businessman, and has dumb ppl giving him advice

and at da same time Floyd has gotten a record purse in his last two fights (one being against guerreo)

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=S-XOZcwWbS8#t=440
shyt wont fukking embed


Floyd said he wanted him to agree to the 40 million and they could talk ppv on the back end. Every fighter hes faced in his ppv career has gotten a cut of the ppv you honestly believe Manny wouldnt have gotten his?

 

[seemorecizzy]

He split PPV revenue with Canelo who has never sold a PPV in his life......no way he can say that Manny doesnt deserve any money off of PPV sales.

canelo didn't get any money off the ppv sales

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

canelo didn't get any money off the ppv sales

yeah he did

 

[seemorecizzy]

How many PPVs were Victor Ortiz, Robert Guerrero, Canelo Alvarez, or Amir Khan coming off of?

If Canelo, who has nowhere near Manny's fanbase and has never sold a PPV in his life, was guaranteed 12 million for the fight while Floyd got 41.5 mill guaranteed (a 77.5%/22.5% split in favor of Floyd), why wouldnt Manny deserve around a 65/35 split (12.5% more than Canelo because he would help generate almost 2x more revenue than Canelo) on a 100 million fight rather than a 53.5 mill fight that Canelo/Floyd brought to the table?


You cant argue that, because EVERYONE knows the money is there for a Floyd/Manny fight. 65 million for Floyd, 35 mill for Manny plus a 70/30 split for PPV in favor of Floyd.

The fight IS makeable, however Floyd is saying flat out that he will never do business with Bob Arum

bob arum would never agree to those terms
pacquaio would agree to something like that if he was able to/with golden boy
plus Floyd is not letting manny touch any of da non ppv revenue money, nor should he

 

[DigitalDopeman]

if arum and pacquaio were doing the same, I would leave it alone too. But arum and pacquaio bring up Floyd name on a REGULAR basis and always use him to promote their upcoming fights. if he want to make a comment every now and then, I don't see the problem

I still stand by my "if u can't make 40 mil, u cant turn down 40 mil" theory but we'll agree to disagree.
you cant turn down 40 mil to go fight for 25-30 mil and then claim da other fighter is scared. the flat rate was high enough. I bet if Floyd offered 35 mil with ppv than pacquaio would felt more better about da deal. He's just a bad businessman, and has dumb ppl giving him advice

and at da same time Floyd has gotten a record purse in his last two fights (one being against guerreo)

i do agree that manny is bad with business and has bad advisors. and you right bob arum does use floyds name to piggy back and sell Mannys fights. they both should keep their name out each others mouth if no fight is getting discussed. and yea, if floyd would have offered manny 35 mil with a % of ppv, i think manny would have took it cause it sounds better lol, even if the end result would have came out to be 40 Mil still. I think manny would have took the 40 mill the first time if he didnt have people in his ear prolly telling him shxt like " Fvck floyd and his 40 mil manny, your are bigger than he is..you should get most of the PPV"

 

[Newzz]

canelo didn't get any money off the ppv sales

Yes he did.

Alvarez has been guaranteed millions more based on the massive revenue the Showtime PPV broadcast is expected to generate, according to his promoter, Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy Promotions.

While Schaefer would not say what Alvarez's minimum total was, a source involved in the promotion said he will earn at least $12 million.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9662239/floyd-mayweather-record-415m-purse-finalized

 

[seemorecizzy]

yeah he did