LL Cool J: "2Pac Had To Put On A Gangsta Image For The Dudes To Like Him"

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He did. He dropped his tough guy persona quick after he shot and went to jail. Then he got with Suge and became super thug again. 2Pac was a clown and as fraudulent as they come.
Not true. He was putting his middle finger up as he was carried off on the stretcher from being shot. He got shot because he WOULDNT let nikkas chump him. When Biggie n them and especially Puff shytted on him in the Vibe interview is what fueled the fire. He never folded.
 

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Not true. He was putting his middle finger up as he was carried off on the stretcher from being shot. He got shot because he WOULDNT let nikkas chump him. When Biggie n them and especially Puff shytted on him in the Vibe interview is what fueled the fire. He never folded.
He renounced "Thug Life" and street shyt in "Vibe" magazine and thats when Puffy pulled his hoe card, then 2Pac got with Suge and became super thug. Dude was a total fraud.
 

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the actual active street nikkas see rappers different

same way back then

as i said the street element that is part of his iconography now is due to the investment of death row/mob piru

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He was wild before death row and people he grew up with in Marin City said he would always act wild as well.
 

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He renounced "Thug Life" and street shyt in "Vibe" magazine and thats when Puffy pulled his hoe card, then 2Pac got with Suge and became super thug. Dude was a total fraud.
Yes he said he was "bowing out" and "moving on" after he got shot but then got sucked back in when people started lying about the incident. Don't know how that constitutes to as being fake.
 

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wild has a different meaning to different folks

so when they say pac was wild what are they saying¿

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The doc was on youtube i seen it years ago but wild in the sense of what we already know about Pac and the way he "acts before he thinks" which would often get him into trouble. That characteristic carried over when he became a rapper.
 

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Yes he said he was "bowing out" and "moving on" after he got shot but then got sucked back in when people started lying about the incident. Don't know how that constitutes to as being fake.
People who really bout it don't fold after they get touched.
He was wild before death row and people he grew up with in Marin City said he would always act wild as well.
people in Marin said he was a goofy. nikkas said he took self defense at the Y and got beat up alot and would fall to the ground in the fetal position and spin around like a top.
 

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The doc was on youtube i seen it years ago but wild in the sense of what we already know about Pac and the way he "acts before he thinks" which would often get him into trouble. That characteristic carried over when he became a rapper.
understood

being impulsive is something you can see in many individuals

but it doesn't mean he was feared or respected among the actual predators in the street

pac was an artist who consciously pursued the street element unnecessarily

but it was real life with real danger not just method acting & it ended terribly

we can enjoy the music for it's entertainment value but we shouldn't miss the cautionary tale just to defend standom

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He did. He dropped his tough guy persona quick after he shot and went to jail. Then he got with Suge and became super thug again. 2Pac was a clown and as fraudulent as they come.
How was he not tough in jail? You think he was just supposed to hear "Who shot ya" in prison and see the Vibe Interview where Puffy was talking shyt and expect him to come out of Prison talking peace?
 

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fukk Mob James. nikka already lost his credibility with that bullshyt he pulled on Vlad.
What bullshyt did he pull with vlad ??? Spliz mob James was a high ranking very respected member ov mob piru back then .... his words do mean something he was right .... u can keep saying pac was defending a homie and not on some gang shyt .... but all shyt aside spliz wen it comes down To it ... it was gang-related ... baby lane a southside crip was jumped by a bunch of official mob pirus and Tupac who many even in law-enforcement at the time would call a mob piru affiliate so how was it not on some gangshyt .... yeah he was a loyal dude and riding with the homies I get that .... but come on and yeah badboy did take themselfs down a dangerous path by been connected to southside but last time I checked ... biggie and puffy were not shouting out members from southside , shouting out southside crips in songs , getting it tattooed on there body and lastly been involved in fights with southside rivals ..... face it spliz Tupac took that shyt to another level for someone who was a rapper .....he started to blurr the lines between rapper and on some gang shyt .. that is facts ... and sadly that’s why he not here
 

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How was he not tough in jail? You think he was just supposed to hear "Who shot ya" in prison and see the Vibe Interview where Puffy was talking shyt and expect him to come out of Prison talking peace?
Tupac was protected in prison .... rap who ran with fort greene crew who just died said Tupac was having trouble in prison n they stopped that shyt .....am about 90% certain Tupac got jumped in prison as well .... Reggie Wright answeared every question I had to ask him online until I asked him about that .... he wouldn’t even speak on it he knows the truth ... one of his old producers who ran with thuglife said the same that he was speaking to mopreme n he told him pac got jumped in prison ...
 

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What bullshyt did he pull with vlad ??? Spliz mob James was a high ranking very respected member ov mob piru back then .... his words do mean something he was right .... u can keep saying pac was defending a homie and not on some gang shyt .... but all shyt aside spliz wen it comes down To it ... it was gang-related ... baby lane a southside crip was jumped by a bunch of official mob pirus and Tupac who many even in law-enforcement at the time would call a mob piru affiliate so how was it not on some gangshyt .... yeah he was a loyal dude and riding with the homies I get that .... but come on and yeah badboy did take themselfs down a dangerous path by been connected to southside but last time I checked ... biggie and puffy were not shouting out members from southside , shouting out southside crips in songs , getting it tattooed on there body and lastly been involved in fights with southside rivals ..... face it spliz Tupac took that shyt to another level for someone who was a rapper .....he started to blurr the lines between rapper and on some gang shyt .. that is facts ... and sadly that’s why he not here
He fronted about being around Pac. He tried to say Pac would spit on random black fans for no reason. Then he ended up walking it back saying that he wasn’t around Pac back then.
 
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