LL Cool J: "2Pac Had To Put On A Gangsta Image For The Dudes To Like Him"

[Wild self]

So u just gonna ignore everybody else that was out? To put the blame on Pac is some corny disingenuous shyt and isn’t actually getting down to the root of the problem. I ain’t ever met a nikka in the streets that did street shyt tryna be like 2Pac.

You underestimate the influences what young children see and how it affects their subconscious behavior. Especially when they dont have parents or guardians that tell them right from wrong. Hip Hop played a fatherly role to people that desperately needed it, and Pac himself didnt know the long term consequences of that. He even wanted to drop that image after his initial plans of leaving Death Row and to do his own thing and do the "One Nation" album deading all kinds of beef.

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

Fake thugging EXPLODED everywhere and emulated Pac, right down to how they dressed. Those same people never gave a damn about his Black Panther upbringing. A lot of people dont even give a damn about black power or black pride in general, but followed Pac like he was Jesus. No one is diverting blame away from white supremacy, its just that the tone of Black power gotten winded down and replaced by "the streets" @Wear My Dawg's Hat

@Wild self

I always found it strange that Tupac, with his BP roots, didn't choose Chuck D and Public Enemy to mentor him.

PE and Digital Underground were on tour together.

But Ice Cube leaves NWA, to travel to NYC to be mentored and produced by Chuck D and the Bomb Squad.

In summary:

Ice Cube>>>>Chuck D/Public Enemy = Cube (today) a living, multi-millionaire businessman, rapper, actor, producer

Tupac>>>>Suge/Death Row/NYC Underworld = Tupac (today) deceased 24 years; global fanbase mourning him as
a martyr for "the streets"

 

[Renzo]

Fake thugging EXPLODED everywhere and emulated Pac, right down to how they dressed. Those same people never gave a damn about his Black Panther upbringing. A lot of people dont even give a damn about black power or black pride in general, but followed Pac like he was Jesus. No one is diverting blame away from white supremacy, its just that the tone of Black power gotten winded down and replaced by "the streets" @Wear My Dawg's Hat

So you the authority on whats a fake and real thug? You talking like you never been out there in the dirt breh.. The cats that perp and pump fake the hardest will be the 1st one to blow your brains out, you cats try and make it like the hood was all good til Tupac came along. Use your common sense, if you some dumb ass lil nikka that try and emulate what you see rappers doing on tv, then Tupac didnt fail you..your bum ass parents and the thugs you see on the block failed you, won't that man job to hold you stupid ass nikkas hands and guide you thru life.. either you soaked up the game he was spitting or you wasnt.

 

[Wild self]

@Wild self

I always found it strange that Tupac, with his BP roots, didn't choose Chuck D and Public Enemy to mentor him.

PE and Digital Underground were on tour together.

But Ice Cube leaves NWA, to travel to NYC to be mentored and produced by Chuck D and the Bomb Squad.

In summary:

Ice Cube>>>>Chuck D/Public Enemy = Cube (today) a living, multi-millionaire businessman, rapper, actor, producer

Tupac>>>>Suge/Death Row/NYC Underworld = Tupac (today) deceased 24 years; global fanbase mourning him as
a martyr for "the streets"

You see it. And its a damn shame that a lot of Pac fans, even in this thread, don't even talk about his Black Panther roots as much as his "Thug Life" Death Row era stint. Like someone said earlier in this thread, a lot of people are even attracted to that image more than anything else about Pac

And anytime you point that out, people get super-defensive and thinking that you are "suburban" or not "real" for pointing that side of Tupac, the upbringing of his black power roots. "The streets" is more important than black pride and black empowerment to a lot of his fans. And the ironic thing is, Tupac himself is a major Chuck D fan and written a letter to him, wanting to join him and his movement after his initial plans on leaving Death Row for the "One Nation" album.

 

[Wild self]

So you the authority on whats a fake and real thug? You talking like you never been out there in the dirt breh.. The cats that perp and pump fake the hardest will be the 1st one to blow your brains out, you cats try and make it like the hood was all good til Tupac came along. Use your common sense, if you some dumb ass lil nikka that try and emulate what you see rappers doing on tv, then Tupac didnt fail you..your bum ass parents and the thugs you see on the block failed you, won't that man job to hold you stupid ass nikkas hands and guide you thru life.. either you soaked up the game he was spitting or you wasnt.

You must be talking about the millions of lost brehs that copies him, not me. At least read up on black history and the family structure before the crack epidemic.

No one denied his interviews and how he talked about poverty, housing, and other important subjects. No one has the authority of whats a "real" thug and what's a fake one, the fake people seen how much more love Pac gotten with the rugged image than his humble beginnings and the streets and the rap game got a million clones of him after he passed. Again, no one is angry at Tupac himself, its the image that Death Row did that exploded.

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

And the ironic thing is, Tupac himself is a major Chuck D fan and written a letter to him, wanting to join him and his movement after his initial plans on leaving Death Row for the "One Nation" album.

Did not know that. That would have been a powerful alliance.

 

[old pig]

Shut up n get off that dead mans dikk.

 

[Wild self]

Did not know that. That would have been a powerful alliance.

Thats the shyt that mant Tupac fans refuse to learn. About the "One Nation" album and Pac wanting to drop the beefs and drop the thug image and collaborating with legends of the east coast. He's always been a sincere guy, but you had people around him that took advantage of his emotions and vision.

 

[spliz]

@Wild self

I always found it strange that Tupac, with his BP roots, didn't choose Chuck D and Public Enemy to mentor him.

PE and Digital Underground were on tour together.

But Ice Cube leaves NWA, to travel to NYC to be mentored and produced by Chuck D and the Bomb Squad.

In summary:

Ice Cube>>>>Chuck D/Public Enemy = Cube (today) a living, multi-millionaire businessman, rapper, actor, producer

Tupac>>>>Suge/Death Row/NYC Underworld = Tupac (today) deceased 24 years; global fanbase mourning him as
a martyr for "the streets"

Chuck D DID mentor Pac in some capacity. Pac just stopped believing in some of the ideals the Panthers had. He said it himself. He felt there was some flaws in their ideals after a while.

 

[kingofnyc]

Nah, Malcolm X wasn't envious of Biggie. And Pac is my favorite rapper and neither was he if that's your inference.

then why - once your favorite rapper went to jail ; he couldn’t keep biggie name ... outta his mouth

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

then why - once your favorite rapper went to jail ; he couldn’t keep biggie name ... outta his mouth

What he say about Biggie in jail? I only recall one interview.

 

[kingofnyc]

i mean ... now, u got nikkaz comparing nelly to biggie


when it comes to hip hop ... NorCal nikkaz be really into their own lil bubble

 

[kingofnyc]

What he say about Biggie in jail? I only recall one interview.

he mention biggie name in damn near every single interview from jan ‘95 to his demise

that’s over a year and a half

if that’s not envious then please tell me what it is

 

[DonDadda]

rappers regularly put on a gimmick like a WWE wrestler because it sells

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

he mention biggie name in damn near every single interview from jan ‘95 to his demise

that’s over a year and a half

if that’s not envious then please tell me what it is

Nah. I only remember Pac mentioning Biggie in the Vibe interview in jail.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

rappers regularly put on a gimmick like a WWE wrestler because it sells

Would make sense but if it was an act with Pac he would've buckled when he had real guns on him.