Live video: George Zimmerman Trial - jury selection, trial, verdict, eye rolling

[Numpsay]

ok...but it somewhat hurts their credibility by doing that IMO.

I don't see it that way. Giving the jury the option increases the chances of a conviction IMO. Had they gone for purely manslaughter and loss the jury would have nothing else to fall back on. Going for second degree the jury has manslaughter to fall back on if they don't feel confident convicting him of second degree.

 

[Leasy]

 

[thegreatwb]

You must've missed the gym owner's testimony. He said Zimmerman was a .5 on a 1-10 scale in terms of fighting/physical ability.

You can pay for classes to fight, but that doesn't mean you'll be Floyd Mayweather after a year.

I'd like to know exactly how that scale is measured. It should be reasonable that any person not handicapped would at least be a 2 on that scale. Would the average teenager be a 5? If so, does that mean that the average 16 year old could man handle Zimmerman? Also, if he trained Zimmerman for a year and he gained absolutely no progress in his fighting skills, what does that say about him as an instructor?

The truth is that we don't know Zimmerman's fighting ability because he never gave him a chance to step in the ring. I've seen enough World Star fights to conclude that even the most softest and scrawniest person could turn into a fighting machine under the right circumstances. My opinion is that Zimmerman was trying to detain Martin and Martin was trying to get away. Of course, that's just my opinion and it may not have even happened that way.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Can we agree that the defense is using smoke and mirrors in this case?

To me, it's a pretty obvious decision for me. Zimmerman initiated the confrontation. He already made up his mind that Martin was guilty of some sort of crime. He ignored warnings from 911 operators to stay away from Martin. No one can give a clear account of who was beating who, but we know a weapon-less minor was killed. These are the facts IMO. The angle of the gun, whether Martin was on top, the cuts/bruises on Zimmerman's face, etc are all just extraneous things being thrown in to muddle the facts.

This should be manslaughter, at least. We can't have armed citizens confronting people, shooting them, and then claiming they felt threatened when they initiated the confrontation. It sets a bad precedence.,,,leave the police work for the police.

I think if the prosecution had just charged Zimmerman with manslaughter instead of going for 2nd degree murder would have made things much simpler for them. By creating the toughter case to prove they have given the defense all the room they needed to create as much obfuscation as possible and basically smoke and mirrors is really all a defense has to present to a jury as long as it can create some level of doubt.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

Good old Zimm hating on the messicans. U know he hates blacks.

 

[Kid McNamara]

What about the stuff written before the underlined. His boys will get on bikes, put in work, and then do a year without ratting on shooterman?

 

[ThaGlow]

Lol at that profile if real. So is Zimmerman about dat life? At first he's like "I'm out" then he's like "thanks for not snitching on me".

 

[protestor]

Unfortunately it may be the case. I also think 2nd degree murder was too lofty. This wasn't a premeditated murder...it happened by circumstances of the situation. but the situation was initiated by GZ. If he simply obeyed the directions of the 911 operator, that whole thing would have never happened.

How did zimmerman initiate the altercation?

Where is the proof of this?

 

[lepard]

How did zimmerman initiate the altercation?

Where is the proof of this?

This is where the disconnect comes from... to some "following" someone can be seen as stalking and/or suspicious behavior. Others see it as not being a defining act.

Either way, the way I see it if Zimmerman would've waited in the car (where he was or by the mail post) this situation wouldn't have escalated.

He'll be found guilty of Manslaughter with time served.

 

[ThaGlow]

How did zimmerman initiate the altercation?

Where is the proof of this?

He did more than he was required to at the cost and risk of both Trayvon and himself.

 

[Leasy]

He did more than he was required to at the cost and risk of both Trayvon and himself.

True indeed and I don't care what nobody say. His wounds are artificial. I wouldn't be surprise if he was high that night off of pills or something.

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

How did zimmerman initiate the altercation?

Where is the proof of this?

the proof is the 911 calls.

the operator advised him not to follow. he followed. this is the initiation of the altercation IMO.

 

[Skooby]

What happened today in the trial?

 

[ThaGlow]

IMO Zimmerman's reenactment video should be the most damning evidence against himself. The steps he took and his thought process make no sense, especially in the safety dept.

 

[G-Zeus]

ZIMMERMANN