Live FROMM Athens: It's a FIELDS of Dreams. The OFFICIAL 2018 University of Georgia Thread

[#1 pick]

So is Fields def leaving?

If so doesnt he have to set out a year?

Not yet.

Would need a waiver

 

[Konnan]

Not yet.

Would need a waiver

Its not my life so its easy to say but I think Fromm gonna stay one more year then go pro so Fields will get his chance t lead the team

It all depends on Fromm tho if he knows hes gonna stay the full 4 years then he should leave but if fromm does leave after this coming year and Fields decides to leave he still has to sit this coming year either way

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Your issues with Fromm don't make sense. Although Fromm didn't win the job outright from Eason he

1.) Knew the entire playbook coming out of Warner Robbins, something Eason did not know

2.) Fromm was a much more vocal leader than Eason the summer before 2017 Fall camp, Eason never established himself as the guy

3.) Kirby left the door open for Eason to get his job back once he was healthy and Fromm beat him out

Saying that Eason got hurt is the only reason Fromm won the job is lazy and misinformed.

And as for this idea that we're mismanaging talent, how? I think @The ADD answered it pretty well but I think Kirby and staff have done an excellent job showcasing and managing talent in the time they've been here. Justin thought he could beat out Jake, he couldn't. You really think Kirby wouldn't play Justin if he thought he was better and more prepared than Jake?

I disagree. And I disagree with your latter point as well. I think we are mismanaging our talent by not feeding or non rb skilled players enough. And i believe it's going to start affecting us on the recruiting trail. Especially with all the other top tier teams doing better than us on that front.

He couldn't or wasn't given a real opportunity to? I'm thinking his family is thinking the later. And i think the real issue was what he was promised vs how he was utilized. UGA had no plan for Fields. Kirby said it multiple times throughout the year and how we utilized him showed that to be the case. And that is the biggest issue. That is the part that's unacceptable to me.

I respect Justin enough to think he realized it wouldn't be a cake walk to unseat Jake Realistically, as a fan I knew it'd be almost impossible for Justin to take the job just like I thought it was gonna be impossible for Eason to take the job back last year as well. Jake is too accurate and the team is winning and too talented for the wheels to fall off enough for that to happen. And even when it would've been beneficial to the team to see Justin out there, the coaches still didn't give him run. There is no excuse for Justin to not have gotten a real chance that LSU game. Do you honestly believe Justin was so poorly billed that he wouldnt have been able to help vs LSU when Jake was terrible?

 

[fwest1]

Wasted Justin the whole year
Didn’t help him develop as a passer in games
Basically played running back

 

[AVXL]

So is Fields def leaving?

If so doesnt he have to set out a year?

Just heard from Rusty Mansell of 247 sports that we'll know more if Justin is on the NCAA Transfer portal then he's definitely gone. I think he's gone

I disagree. And I disagree with your latter point as well. I think we are mismanaging our talent by not feeding or non rb skilled players enough. And i believe it's going to start affecting us on the recruiting trail. Especially with all the other top tier teams doing better than us on that front.

How do you judge mismanagement? Yes UGA runs a Pro style run oriented attack, but we also score 39 ppg. This isn't Oklahoma's offense or Texas Tech Air Raid but the skill players are getting opportunities. Ridley, Holloman, Godwin, MeCole and Nauta are all future pros. How is that mismanagement? B/c we're not throwing it 50 times a game?

He couldn't or wasn't given a real opportunity to? I'm thinking his family is thinking the later. And i think the real issue was what he was promised vs how he was utilized. UGA had no plan for Fields. Kirby said it multiple times throughout the year and how we utilized him showed that to be the case. And that is the biggest issue. That is the part that's unacceptable to me.

The plan was to get him into games where they felt like he could give us a chance to win. Was it perfect? No. But they got him on the field as a backup more than I've ever seen a coaching staff make the effort to get a backup QB on the field. And was Justin capable of leading the team? Yes, but he looked a bit slow on his reads as a passer. And that's ok he's a young passer, but he shouldn't have been starting over Jake. You can actually make the case the coaching staff at times prioritized Justin's development at the expense of the team

I respect Justin enough to think he realized it wouldn't be a cake walk to unseat Jake Realistically, as a fan I knew it'd be almost impossible for Justin to take the job just like I thought it was gonna be impossible for Eason to take the job back last year as well. Jake is too accurate and the team is winning and too talented for the wheels to fall off enough for that to happen. And even when it would've been beneficial to the team to see Justin out there, the coaches still didn't give him run. There is no excuse for Justin to not have gotten a real chance that LSU game. Do you honestly believe Justin was so poorly billed that he wouldnt have been able to help vs LSU when Jake was terrible?

He should have played more vs LSU but that's one game. But really what are you saying? Should Justin have been the starter? Should they have split snaps 50/50? I said before the season 10-20% snaps for Justin and he got around 13% this yr

I understand him wanting to play but Justin knew what he was up against. He should've redshirted this yr but he didn't want to wait. But saying UGA mismanaged skill players just because the backup didn't beat out the starter makes no sense to me at all

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Just heard from Rusty Mansell of 247 sports that we'll know more if Justin is on the NCAA Transfer portal then he's definitely gone. I think he's gone



How do you judge mismanagement? Yes UGA runs a Pro style run oriented attack, but we also score 39 ppg. This isn't Oklahoma's offense or Texas Tech Air Raid but the skill players are getting opportunities. Ridley, Holloman, Godwin, MeCole and Nauta are all future pros. How is that mismanagement? B/c we're not throwing it 50 times a game?



The plan was to get him into games where they felt like he could give us a chance to win. Was it perfect? No. But they got him on the field as a backup more than I've ever seen a coaching staff make the effort to get a backup QB on the field. And was Justin capable of leading the team? Yes, but he looked a bit slow on his reads as a passer. And that's ok he's a young passer, but he shouldn't have been starting over Jake. You can actually make the case the coaching staff at times prioritized Justin's development at the expense of the team



He should have played more vs LSU but that's one game. But really what are you saying? Should Justin have been the starter? Should they have split snaps 50/50? I said before the season 10-20% snaps for Justin and he got around 13% this yr

I understand him wanting to play but Justin knew what he was up against. He should've redshirted this yr but he didn't want to wait. But saying UGA mismanaged skill players just because the backup didn't beat out the starter makes no sense to me at all

I still completely disagree. I'm not calling a player not starting over another player mismanaging talent, but if you have a roster full of players who would benefit from a certain style of play and you don't play in that way that will maximize their skillsets, you're mismanaging talent. Im not asking for an air raid but we need to open it up more. Even alabama did.

And those players you mentioned would've been pros anywhere they went, but they would've probably been higher picks elsewhere. That's not a good look.

Also what game did we prioritized Justin's development at the expense of the team? I cant think of a single instance of that. Running him like a running back isnt developing justin fam. If anything thats another case of mismanagement. It got to the point where it was telegraphed fields in=run when Kirby initially insisted that would never be the case. And let me not even bring up the fake punt in the ship .

At the end of the day, as long as we win a natty I dont give a damn what we run or who we start. But I see trends in college football that seem to be a winning formula, and I just want UGA to do whatever necessary to actual win it all.

 

[AVXL]

I still completely disagree. I'm not calling a player not starting over another player mismanaging talent, but if you have a roster full of players who would benefit from a certain style of play and you don't play in that way that will maximize their skillsets, you're mismanaging talent. Im not asking for an air raid but we need to open it up more. Even alabama did.

But Chaney and Kirby DID change the style of play for the offense. We put in the RPO almost exclusively to play to Justin's skillset when he was in games. It's a run based offense breh, but Jake slings it around. I've never heard a UGA fan say that they think we're mismanaging our skill players on offense outside of Justin. But based on how Justin looked I don't think he was as prepared as he could be to be successful, b/c the coaching staff gave him chances

And those players you mentioned would've been pros anywhere they went, but they would've probably been higher picks elsewhere. That's not a good look.

So none of the coaching, recruiting and development Kirby and staff have done matter b/c these guys could've gone anywhere and been pros. Ok breh

So when the coaches DO develop their guys into pros, those players would've been pros and higher picks anywhere else. Great take breh, let's get Kirby outta here so we can get a rea coach who can recruit, develop and better manage players to the standard you're looking for.

Also what game did we prioritized Justin's development at the expense of the team? I cant think of a single instance of that. Running him like a running back isnt developing justin fam. If anything thats another case of mismanagement. It got to the point where it was telegraphed fields in=run when Kirby initially insisted that would never be the case. And let me not even bring up the fake punt in the ship .

Can you give me examples of other players on the team who have been mismanaged or could you just keep it real with yourself and just say that the only one who was "mismanaged" in your opinion was JF1

At the end of the day, as long as we win a natty I dont give a damn what we run or who we start. But I see trends in college football that seem to be a winning formula, and I just want UGA to do whatever necessary to actual win it all.

Do you really think this program isn't dedicated to winning a title at all costs? You sound like more of a JF1 fan than a UGA fan right now breh

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Ive given you multiple examples of players other than JF that I believe have been mismanaged that you choose to ignore.You're a breh and at the end of the day we want the same thing so i'm not gonna go back and forth with you. I disagree with all of your points. You can try to boil that down to me being a JF fan if you want. It is what it is. You clearly don't see it the same way as me and I don't have time to keep typing the same thing over and over. No p

 

[AVXL]

Ive given you multiple examples of players other than JF that I believe have been mismanaged that you choose to ignore.You're a breh and at the end of the day we want the same thing so i'm not gonna go back and forth with you. I disagree with all of your points. You can try to boil that down to me being a JF fan if you want. It is what it is. You clearly don't see it the same way as me and I don't have time to keep typing the same thing over and over. No p

You failed to give ONE example of an instance where other skill players on offense were/are mismanaged. You just wanna talk about Justin Fields.

You discredit the coaching staff's ability to develop and manage players because in your opinion "these guys would be pros anywhere" like Kirby and Co haven't actively recruited, trained and developed these guys throughout the year.

If you're upset about JF1 leaving I get it. But I disagree with your overall point b/c this was a unique situation with JF1 and was going to be an odd fit from the get go. I give the coaching staff credit for not naming a starter and making a concerted effort to get JF1 playing time. Was it perfect? No. I would've liked to have seen JF1 play more at times too, but to say that the staff mismanages talent b/c of one player is a lie breh

 

[AVXL]

Early Signing Day: Georgia football live updates
The Bulldogs enter the day with the No. 2 overall class, led by a nation-best four 5-star commitments. Only Alabama has a better recruiting class, but Georgia can close a lot of ground and possibly add three more 5-star recruits. The first of those 5-star prospects to announce will be running back Trey Sanders, who is the nation’s No. 1 overall running back. He will announce his commitment at 1:20 p.m. ET and DawgNation will be live on the scene.

Related: How does the potential of a Justin Fields transfer affect this year’s recruiting class?

Georgia football recruiting targets and announcement times:
Below is a list of Georgia’s recruiting targets that are expected to sign and announce on Wednesday. Jadon Haselwood, the No. 4 player in the country and the No. 1 wide receiver, will publicly announce his commitment on Jan. 5. The same goes for 4-star cornerback Tyrique Stevenson, who is the No. 38 player in the country. Gabriel will also sign on Wednesday, but a time is not yet known.

Zach Calzada, 3-star quarterback, 9:30 a.m. ET:Calzada is a name to watch for Georgia fans interested in quarterback recruiting. He is from Buford, Ga., and played at Lanier High School. He is the No. 18 pro-style quarterback in the country. With news swirling about Justin Fields, this is a name Georgia fans should be watching for.

Noah Cain, 4-star running back, 11:05 a.m. ET:Cain is the No. 7 running back in the country and played at IMG Academy. Georgia has been recruiting him heavily, but is also battling Penn State and Texas for his services.

Trey Sanders, 5-star running back, 1:20 p.m. ET: Sanders is the nation’s No. 1 running back in the country and will announce his decision from Port St. Joe, Fla. DawgNation will be live on hand to broadcast the announcement. It is believed that Georgia, Alabama and Florida are the lead contenders for Sanders’ services.

Nakobe Dean, 5-star linebacker, 2:00 p.m. ET:Dean is the nation’s top inside linebacker and DawgNation will also be covering his announcement from Horn Lake, Miss. Much like Sanders, this is widely believed to be a Georgia-Alabama battle, though Ole Miss is also a contender.

Evan Neal, 5-star offensive tackle, 2:45 p.m. ET: Neal — who was teammates at IMG Academy with Sanders, Cain and Nolan Smith — is the No. 20 ranked player in the country and No. 5 offensive tackle. He will be deciding between Alabama, Georgia and Miami.

Georgia football commitments:

These players are the ones who are committed to Georgia but have not yet signed. Wednesday is the first day that they can sign and officially join the Georgia football team.

• Nolan Smith, 5-star defensive end, Bradenton, Fla., No. 1 player in the country per 247Sports Composite rating
• Travon Walker, 5-star defensive tackle, Thomaston, Ga., No. 24 player in the country per 247Sports Composite rating
• Dominick Blaylock, 5-star wide receiver, Marietta, Ga., No. 34 player in the country
• Lewis Cine, 4-star safety, Cedar Hill, Tex., No. 66 player in the country
• Rian Davis, 4-star linebacker, Apopka, Fla., No. 90 player in the country
• Trezmen Marshall, 4-star linebacker, Homerville, Ga., No. 122 player in the country
• Bill Norton, 4-star defensive end, Memphis, Tenn., No. 129 player in the country
• Xavier Truss, 4-star offensive tackle, Warwick, RI., No. 139 player in the country
• Kenny McIntosh, 4-star running back, Fort Lauderdale, Fla., No. 179 player in the country
• Ryland Goede, 4-star tight end, Acworth, Ga., No. 196 player in the country
• Makiya Tongue, 4-star athlete, Baton Rouge, La., No. 209 player in the country
• Warren McClendon, 4-star offensive tackle, Brunswick, Ga., No. 235 player in the country
• John Rhys Plumlee, 4-star quarterback, Hattiesburg, Miss., No. 265 player in the country
• Zion Logue, 4-star defensive tackle, Lebanon, Tenn., No. 344 player in the country
• Tymon Mitchell, 3-star defensive tackle, Nashville, Tenn., No. 418 player in the country

Georgia football 2019 signees already enrolled

These four players are already at Georgia and have begun practicing with the team.

• Clay Webb, 5-star center, Oxford, Ala., No. 22 player in the country per 247Sports Composite rating
• Jermaine Johnson, 4-star outside linebacker, No. 1 JUCO player in the country per 247Sports Composite rating
• DJ Daniel, 4-star cornerback, No. 2 JUCO player in the country
• Tramel Walthour, No. 40 JUCO player in the country

 

[I AM WARHOL]

You failed to give ONE example of an instance where other skill players on offense were/are mismanaged. You just wanna talk about Justin Fields.

You discredit the coaching staff's ability to develop and manage players because in your opinion "these guys would be pros anywhere" like Kirby and Co haven't actively recruited, trained and developed these guys throughout the year.

If you're upset about JF1 leaving I get it. But I disagree with your overall point b/c this was a unique situation with JF1 and was going to be an odd fit from the get go. I give the coaching staff credit for not naming a starter and making a concerted effort to get JF1 playing time. Was it perfect? No. I would've liked to have seen JF1 play more at times too, but to say that the staff mismanages talent b/c of one player is a lie breh

I definitely named a few Wrs and a TE but ok

 

[I AM WARHOL]

What are the chances we get Trey Sanders? I feel like he's been trolling

Nolan Smith is gonna have a Roquan level affect on this defense one day

 

[AVXL]

Busy morning. New Dogs so far:


1. DE Nolan Smith
2. TE Ryan Goede
3. OL Warren McClendon
4. OL Xavier Truss
5. LB Travon Walker
6. OLB Jermaine Johnson
7. OL Clay Webb
8. DB D.J. Daniel
9. WR Dominic Blaylock
10. Zion Logue
11. DL Willie Norton
12. DL Tramel Walthour

From Chip Towers twitter

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Just flipped a DT QB from OSU . Dwan Mathis

 

[AVXL]

Just flipped a DT QB from OSU . Dwan Mathis

4 star dual threat, hellavu flip