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[Supa]

if you want a D.K. / A.J. Brown type of reciver Xavier Legette is your man

dude already had beta mahomes spencer rattler throwing to him

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One year of production?

Nah.

 

[Brozay]

Dallas Turner gonna be top 10

 

[yseJ]

I been out of the loop, whose stock on OL is rising/dropping ?

 

[IIVI]

Good stuff right here from Kurt Warner about the QB's after watching them all play and breaking down their footage and how they process the game.

Ranks them:
Caleb #1 (basically calls him a complete quarterback and has a "unique" feel for playing QB that you can't teach)
Daniels #2
Penix #3
Nix #4
Maye #5

Timestamped 30:00:

 

[Brozay]

this draft is looking fun. the WR class looks historically good. gonna see like 6 wide outs round 1 potentially. lacking high end pass rushers maybe but the depth of talent there is interesting. I’m seeing a ton of defensive talent across the board, day 3 will be a big day for these front offices. gonna be some future impact players out there.

I would love Nabers or Odunze at 9 to pair with Caleb but they ain’t falling. I think the Bears trade back because Alt will be gone too. Can fall back to later in the 1st, maybe get an interior OL and find a WR in the 2nd

 

[Brozay]

this draft is looking fun. the WR class looks historically good. gonna see like 6 wide outs round 1 potentially. lacking high end pass rushers maybe but the depth of talent there is interesting. I’m seeing a ton of defensive talent across the board, day 3 will be a big day for these front offices. gonna be some future impact players out there.

I would love Nabers or Odunze at 9 to pair with Caleb but they ain’t falling. I think the Bears trade back because Alt will be gone too. Can fall back to later in the 1st, maybe get an interior OL and find a WR in the 2nd

just catching up on the OL combine - shiiiit

this draft is gonna be loaded. IF Caleb and a couple other QBs hit, could be a classic draft class

there are gonna be some gems left on day 3 this year

 

[IIVI]

From the Chargers' message board, who's looking for OL. Quick breakdowns:

Isaiah Adams * slow, not good, hips not bad turning the corner, not an athlete
Joe Alt * coming in thought he was a bit overhyped, former TE, but is he really elite for the position, great length, not a good bender, avg foot speed, not tight in the hips, don't see elite movement skills, slow getting off the line/turning the corner in down block, not lightfooted, slip sliding around/away
Gottleib Ayedze * decent base, feet are alright, can kinda sink his hips and stay low
Karsen Barnhart * solid mirror
Cooper Beebe * really in control & compact, not super electric, but passes movement test, decent feet, nice ankle flexion, has some pop to him, ideal mirror drill, change of direction on point
Tanor Bartolini * knee bend is there, good hand movement, good laterally, nice feet/really good, lightfooted, good reps in everything, flew thru the mirror, can shift his weight
Olu Fashanu * not sure he's special, athletically
Troy Fautanu * versatile, can go all over the line, solid knee bend, solid base, has extra short area burst, easy kick step, lightfooted, good change of direction, good pop in the hands, no question marks, good player, elite mirror drill
Blake Fisher * okay movement, looks a bit raw, but not bad, not explosive, but moving alright, looks like a project, but one that can work, kick step doesn't cover a ton of ground, but in position, needs work but has potential
Zach Frazier * good knee bend, bit upright going back, was battling an injury
Javon Foster * great SB
Taliese Fuaga * good job staying low, good @staying moving & in control, better than imagined, am falling more in love, am impressed, can't believe how well he is going for his size, makes it look easy, gets in base efficiently, can't believe how explosive he is, has real juice for his size, not to mention he blew up the SB
X'Zauvea Gadlin * huge and not a disaster moving around
Tyler Guyton * lightfooted, keeps ass low, good knee bend, tight hipped, it's a problem, can't open up @all, might have to be a RT, thought he needed to show more pow @SB
CJ Hanson * keeps feet moving and does good job staying low, pretty quick feet, looks like a center, good reaction time, really good @sinking hips
Christian Haynes * solid knee bend, pretty quick feet, really gets out and goes, has some power in his feet, eye like him, has some explosion
Christian Jones * little stiff but feet are good, some limitations in the knee bend, plus athlete and uses hands well, solid SB
Matthew Jones * good base, feet not bad, covers no ground in kick step
Trente Jones * not a bad athlete, nice feet, OL6 @Michigan
Trevor Keegan * moves well, no issues bending, keeps feet churning, Bside player
Jarrett Kingston * not super athletic
JC Latham * doesn't open up & go, slow play speed, feet way too close together, has some force, hips aren't bad, flexibility, way too choppy and not covering ground, RT only, not super heavy in the feet, passed the mirror.... DND !!
Sataoa Laumea * wild child/all over the place, not controlled, play speed is fine, but not refined
Beaux Limmer * covers ground, good arm movement, feet move well, center drills easy, nice knee bend, good fire w/the hands
Christian Mahoghany * prolly best lineman @East West, didn't cover a ton of ground, stiff/staggered, moving ok, not super duper athletic, wierd technique but gets job done, feet moving well
Amarius Mims * struggled to stay healthy, really good when on the field, sample size is really small.... how do you proceed ?? (cautionary tale.... proceed w/caution.... if @all)
Jacob Monk * wide base, not explosive, bit high, but moves @good pace, not a great kick step, needs better play speed, had best 10 yd time, but didn't look like it moving around
Drake Nugent * decent feet, solid punch, play speed is solid, lacks initial burst
Patrick Paul * serious back bender, not gaining ground, heavy feet, stiff, not exploding outta breaks, way too high, hips not good, back bending is gross, got yelled @for not having enough kick
Jackson Powers Johnson * movement skills far from ideal, slow play speed, don't see explosion, step down athletically from top guys of past, punches well, hand work pretty good
Roger Rosengarten * not super technical, but gets to his spot, faster than quick, not a good kick step, got beat @SB team drills quite a bit
Kingsley Suamataia * athletic monster, good ankles, smooth in drills, athletic backpedal, has explosion you want, acceleration getting to spot is noticeable, fires off ball, perfect kick step, in control on punch, head on a swivel
Nathan Thomas * gets job done, bit high, solid base, not an easy mover, not overly limited either tho
Charles Turner * no major issues, keeps feet moving, overall passable
Sedrick Van Pran * more power than speed, feet do well, resets feet well, in control for most part

A lot of them really like Taliese Fuaga at RT.

Next tier:
Olumuyiwa Fashanu, Graham Barton, Kingsley Suamataia, Trente Jones

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Good stuff right here from Kurt Warner about the QB's after watching them all play and breaking down their footage and how they process the game.

Ranks them:
Caleb #1 (basically calls him a complete quarterback and has a "unique" feel for playing QB that you can't teach)
Daniels #2
Penix #3
Nix #4
Maye #5

Timestamped 30:00:

He lost me at Nix over Maye. Nix is gonna be a terrible pro

 

[kevin arnold]

Hope the chiefs draft Xavier Worthy

3 peat coming

 

[Brozay]

From the Chargers' message board, who's looking for OL. Quick breakdowns:

A lot of them really like Taliese Fuaga at RT.

Next tier:
Olumuyiwa Fashanu, Graham Barton, Kingsley Suamataia, Trente Jones

how do they feel about just locking in Alt at 5?

 

[Brozay]

Bears bringing in Caleb tomorrow for his official meeting in Chicago. That’s about 3 weeks to a month earlier than it’s usually done (closer to pro days)

obviously they are putting the final touches into drafting him. Poles would ideally want to trade Fields this week but the Kirk FA is slowing down the process, ATL prefers pursuing him than a Fields trade

 

[IIVI]

how do they feel about just locking in Alt at 5?

Rather Nabers or trade down for a more traditional OT honestly.

I wouldn't even mind trading back to the Bears with Nabers on board to swap picks, grabbing that extra 2nd/last first you guys get for Fields so we can end with a draft where Fuaga (RT/RG), Corley and Fautanu (RG) are in Bolts jerseys by the end of the night. Then we need a WR who can fly.

That way ya'll get Caleb/Nabers and we can land the OL we want. There's still a chance Bowers is there at #9 as well, which is another target people have been talking about.

I'm pretty sure the first thing Harbaugh will do is prioritize the OL, but I don't think Alt is that guy. Some team will reach for him, but I hope it's not the Bolts because they need a traditional reliable OT who's played OL their whole life when it comes to protecting Herbert, not a boom-bust risk.

 

[IIVI]

I'm pretty sure the Chargers are leaning OL. I honestly don't think it's going to be Joe Alt. They want a RT/Guard.

Only question is if they trade down or bring Fuaga straight up at #5.

 

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[Braman]

This should be sticked From what I’m heating and seeing

-Former players and people actually watching tape all seem to prefer Daniels over Maye.

-Earlier I had a bunch McCarthy wouldn’t be there for Denver at 12. Now I’m 100% sure. Some team is gonna trade up to jump Denver and possibly jump Minnesota too. If Atl doesn’t get cousins or fields, McCarthy could go to them at 8