Little Brother - May the Lord Watch (Discussion Thread)
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The three albums i’ve listened to the most this summer are Lost Tapes 2, Revenge Of The Dreamers, and this
TheDarceKnight
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I need to listen to that Dreamers again. It was dope but I haven't bumped it enough.The three albums i’ve listened to the most this summer are Lost Tapes 2, Revenge Of The Dreamers, and this
You fukk with Plugs I Met or Bandana?
It's weird. Bandana was my AOTY when it dropped but surprisingly I haven't really listening to it since July. I need to break that out again too.
I like Bandana alot but Gibbs has never been like my favorite rapper. I connect with Nas, Phonte, and Cole alot more as artists
It's dope this thread is still stickied, and the other album that had 9th Wonder production is already in the bushes.
Piff Perkins
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Initially I figured 9th couldn't commit to a tour because he has so many other things going on (Jamla, teaching, etc)...but to hear that he initially committed until he learned he wouldn't be doing all the beats is very surprising. He had the time, he simply didn't want to do it unless this was 100% his baby. Yikes. That's a bad look and another chapter in the saga of 9th doing weird shyt.
Playaz Eyez
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Those two are far better than ROTD3 and Lost Tapes 2.
CashmereThoughts
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Don’t care. Production is flames. Can’t assume an all 9th album would have been better
Piff Perkins
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Nah I'm not saying I wanted him on there or that the album isn't dope. It's dope without him...and this isn't their first dope album without him. I was just saying I was surprised about him demanding to control the project and the touring thing.
You can tell there are def subs in those quotes too lol. The thing about 9th thinking like a "beat maker" whereas Phonte/Pooh were looking for actual production...lmao. I thought Phonte and 9th were cool with each other. That's the type of shyt you say about someone you're not talking to anymore.
What's your current relationship with 9th Wonder? Because he posted a congratulations post on Instagram.
Both: That was bullshyt!
Big Pooh: We didn't get a text in our group chat that we've had...well...it hasn't been active. [Laughs.] Real talk, if you have my number, right? Before you do all that for the Gram, say it to me first. If he was to send the text, like, "Look, man. I know we done or whatever, but I just wanna congratulate ya'll for pushing through. The record dope," and then he put that [on Instagram], it would be cool. But for you to do that and we haven't heard from you... I ain't talk to that n---a since March.
Do you think it's also a competitive thing -- being that he executive produced Rapsody's Eve album, which dropped just around the same time?
Phonte: That ain't have shyt to do with that shyt, man. Very quickly, just to clear it up -- we did start this project as the three of us, together. We started it. And then, it became very clear that we just bumped on two very big issues. One was we had wildly different ideas as to what production meant. He thought of production in the sense of just beat-maker. We were thinking of production in a classical Quincy Jones sense.
To him, he wanted to produce all the beats on the album. Not only did he want to produce all the beats on the album, he wanted to refuse the right to any other producer to work on the album. So any other producer that we wanted to work with -- from Notts, !llmind, and all these brothers that helped keep the LB name alive while he wasn't in the picture -- he thought he had the right to say, "No, these guys shouldn't be a part of this." We was like "N---a, hell nah. You not making that call." The Soul Council, he didn't even want his own crew on the record.
He said, "Y'all gonna give me my spot back."
Phonte: And about that, we ain't giving you shyt back. Earn your fukking spot back. Like when a n---a gets hurt and you're the star running back, the back-up comes in and starts beasting, you come out of rehab and you're not automatically back in.
Big Pooh: You seen what happened to Le'Veon Bell.
Phonte: We gotta figure out how to work you back into this whole existing framework. We can figure it out together and have conversations as a team. We're still with you, but you're going to participate in this. You're not going to dictate a goddamn thing. That was one.
The second thing was that we both had wildly different ideas of what commitment meant. So when it came down to, "Hey, man. What if I just come out and do the festival shows with y'all, and [tour DJ] Flash do the regular shows." It's like, get the fukk out of here. You're either all in or you're out. There's no beef. It's just clarity.
During this process, it's been a real journey. Just seeing things twist and turn, it was God's time. This was something to where at the end of this process, it really just put a period at the end of our relationship with him both personally and professional. It was cool. There's no beef because it was based on a true understanding of I see who you are. Just like how I got to know Pooh as a man, I got to know you as a man, and I can accept that. In my acceptance of that, I can also say, "N---a, I'm good on that."
How Little Brother Learned to Be a Family Again
They pretty much confirm and make it clear in this billboard interview that they're not fukking with 9th anymore period.
Both: That was bullshyt!
Big Pooh: We didn't get a text in our group chat that we've had...well...it hasn't been active. [Laughs.] Real talk, if you have my number, right? Before you do all that for the Gram, say it to me first. If he was to send the text, like, "Look, man. I know we done or whatever, but I just wanna congratulate ya'll for pushing through. The record dope," and then he put that [on Instagram], it would be cool. But for you to do that and we haven't heard from you... I ain't talk to that n---a since March.
Do you think it's also a competitive thing -- being that he executive produced Rapsody's Eve album, which dropped just around the same time?
Phonte: That ain't have shyt to do with that shyt, man. Very quickly, just to clear it up -- we did start this project as the three of us, together. We started it. And then, it became very clear that we just bumped on two very big issues. One was we had wildly different ideas as to what production meant. He thought of production in the sense of just beat-maker. We were thinking of production in a classical Quincy Jones sense.
To him, he wanted to produce all the beats on the album. Not only did he want to produce all the beats on the album, he wanted to refuse the right to any other producer to work on the album. So any other producer that we wanted to work with -- from Notts, !llmind, and all these brothers that helped keep the LB name alive while he wasn't in the picture -- he thought he had the right to say, "No, these guys shouldn't be a part of this." We was like "N---a, hell nah. You not making that call." The Soul Council, he didn't even want his own crew on the record.
He said, "Y'all gonna give me my spot back."
Phonte: And about that, we ain't giving you shyt back. Earn your fukking spot back. Like when a n---a gets hurt and you're the star running back, the back-up comes in and starts beasting, you come out of rehab and you're not automatically back in.
Big Pooh: You seen what happened to Le'Veon Bell.
Phonte: We gotta figure out how to work you back into this whole existing framework. We can figure it out together and have conversations as a team. We're still with you, but you're going to participate in this. You're not going to dictate a goddamn thing. That was one.
The second thing was that we both had wildly different ideas of what commitment meant. So when it came down to, "Hey, man. What if I just come out and do the festival shows with y'all, and [tour DJ] Flash do the regular shows." It's like, get the fukk out of here. You're either all in or you're out. There's no beef. It's just clarity.
During this process, it's been a real journey. Just seeing things twist and turn, it was God's time. This was something to where at the end of this process, it really just put a period at the end of our relationship with him both personally and professional. It was cool. There's no beef because it was based on a true understanding of I see who you are. Just like how I got to know Pooh as a man, I got to know you as a man, and I can accept that. In my acceptance of that, I can also say, "N---a, I'm good on that."
How Little Brother Learned to Be a Family Again
They pretty much confirm and make it clear in this billboard interview that they're not fukking with 9th anymore period.
TheDarceKnight
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Percy’s last joint. RIP
TheDarceKnight
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bigdaddy88
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damn this whole thing is heavy. seems 9th's head is too big for his own good.
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at 9th posting one for the gram but not texting them. 