Liberal elites are Donald Trump's greatest allies
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Grano-Grano
The Bando
Arguing with Nap is like arguing with a brick wall. No point.
I'm the first person to say that the Democratic party sucks and is inept and often screws itself over and isn't much more than Republican-lite.
But I don't think Trump's win (or the general control the GOP has over the government) can be completely attributed to the Democrats incompetence. Truth be told, during the Obama era a lot of people got drawn into this alt-right movement (there was a thread about white guys getting radicalized online) and having a black president made that easy to do. Trump's rise is reflective of that. Keep in mind that Trump is a guy who spent years claiming the first black president wasn't born in America (for no real reason other than him being black) and most of the population was fine with this (at least fine enough with it to still vote for him).
So I guess my point is that, as bad as the Dem party is (and it is bad), at some point you have to admit that a lot of the reason Trump won is because a large part of the country likes him and his rhetoric.
But I don't think Trump's win (or the general control the GOP has over the government) can be completely attributed to the Democrats incompetence. Truth be told, during the Obama era a lot of people got drawn into this alt-right movement (there was a thread about white guys getting radicalized online) and having a black president made that easy to do. Trump's rise is reflective of that. Keep in mind that Trump is a guy who spent years claiming the first black president wasn't born in America (for no real reason other than him being black) and most of the population was fine with this (at least fine enough with it to still vote for him).
So I guess my point is that, as bad as the Dem party is (and it is bad), at some point you have to admit that a lot of the reason Trump won is because a large part of the country likes him and his rhetoric.
That 80% turnout amongst white Evangelicals is kinda crazy to me still.
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
lmao these same Democratic apologist will be talmbowt fighting against white supremacy in the next thread, while defending the same politicians and policies that maintains it
To suggest that "progressive moves could still have been made in a Hillary Presidency," while not having a majority in the Senate and House, further shows the disingenuous nature of Hillary supporters towards progressive ideologies and it provides a glimpse into the crafty methods they will use against "allies." With no majority in Congress, she more likely would've used executive orders, but the Dems are criticizing President Trump for doing it, like the Repubs were criticizing President Obama for doing the same thing
Both Bernie and Trump had similar messages, which suggest that there are concerns and policies that are beyond political rhetoric, but Hillary and DNC officials were willing to undermine Bernie and his message because it was her turn.
The undermining of Bernie by Hillary and DNC only becomes a dead horse when everyone acknowledges that it not only occurred, but was a significant contribution to her defeat. But she, DNC officials and Dem apologist continue to downplay it and present Bernie's challenge as not being a "big deal," like you did
the absurdity of this statement continues to show why Hillary supporters and Democratic apologist are the reasons why Trump wonthis energy you, your bros, and the prophet bernie himself seem to be directing towards the democrats seems like it would be better served in establishing your own party. being as you all seem to be such staunch revolutionaries, im always confused by the talk of the two party system is unbreakable. that doesnt sound very revolutionary to me.
you guys dig up more articles bashing democrats (the people you atleast have something in common with, no matter how small) than the people actively ruining your prime and the next several generations with destructive policies and appointments spanning from the environment to social justice.
bernie losing wasnt a big deal and progressive moves could have been made even in a hillary presidency. but when you cut off your nose to spite your face you are left with the situation we are in now where a trump presidency and all the fukkery with it is a reality
you'd be best served bringing up articles of progressive candidates who we all can start reading on and prompting to others instead of beating the dead horse of democrats suckbernie lost
To suggest that "progressive moves could still have been made in a Hillary Presidency," while not having a majority in the Senate and House, further shows the disingenuous nature of Hillary supporters towards progressive ideologies and it provides a glimpse into the crafty methods they will use against "allies." With no majority in Congress, she more likely would've used executive orders, but the Dems are criticizing President Trump for doing it, like the Repubs were criticizing President Obama for doing the same thing
Both Bernie and Trump had similar messages, which suggest that there are concerns and policies that are beyond political rhetoric, but Hillary and DNC officials were willing to undermine Bernie and his message because it was her turn.
The undermining of Bernie by Hillary and DNC only becomes a dead horse when everyone acknowledges that it not only occurred, but was a significant contribution to her defeat. But she, DNC officials and Dem apologist continue to downplay it and present Bernie's challenge as not being a "big deal," like you did
The most hypocritical group in USA.
They voted for a deviant like Trump who is far beyond the 'values' they hold.
I bet you really believe that too
Oh, and Bernie wasn't a democrat...
Nothing said "undermined" like coming in 4 million votes behind
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
Blame could be applied to a few folks and conditions, but it doesn't end at President ObamaWhose fukking fault is that?
Ill wait
Once you've anointed a career politician, with substantial evidence of shady dealings and dishonesty, as the next President seven years before the elections, then having a Democratic President with a democratic majority Congress is not appealing. Thus a common and effective campaign slogan was "vote for me, we cannot risk our future with her having unlimited power"
Another example of disingenuousness toward progressivesI bet you really believe that too
Oh, and Bernie wasn't a democrat...
Nothing said "undermined" like coming in 4 million votes behind
-He wasn't a real "democrat" but yet he caucused with them
-He came in 4 million votes behind, but the DNC blocked independent voters from voting in their primaries and used media allies to portray Bernie as an idealist, despite having a similar message as the leading candidate in Republican primaries. But for some reason, the DNC expected independent voters to support their candidate in the general with fear tactics and the very desperate "he's dirtier than me" campaign strategies
I don't care what he caucused as.
Bernie did jack shyt for the DNC as a party for 30+ years until he decided he wanted something.
The DNC doesn't owe shyt to people who aren't in the DNC.
Do you know people who work at the DNC or DCCC?
I do.
That shyt doesn't sit well with them. Those are people who are on the ground, doing the work your lazy ass isn't...or can't.
Either way, you don't get to show up late, ask for all the party favors, and when you don't get them STILL not commit
To this day, Bernie is not a member of the DNC.
The fact that these Bernie stans will sully anyone who isn't on Bernie's Myspace Top 8 with their bullshyt liberal litmus test tells me all I need to know.
Keep your fractured shyt over there. You've done enough damage.
Who's out here having town halls with Trump voters?
But but but he's not a Democrat
But but but why isn't he talking enough about Russia
But but but
But but but he's not a Democrat
But but but why isn't he talking enough about Russia
But but but
Your avatar says you live in Brooklyn..what sort of insulated, lack of perspective having bullshyt are you talking about?
Dems outside of NYC are annoyed as fukk with all this Bernie talk.
The DNC has been pushing the fukk back against these republicans.
These town halls are getting flooded with Dems and all you can do is bytch about some hipster shyt on the block.
People outside of the Tri-State have real issues and concerns. Take that moralizing bullshyt elsewhere.
We literally have a billionaire reality star president. 
Red Shield
Global Domination
I'm the first person to say that the Democratic party sucks and is inept and often screws itself over and isn't much more than Republican-lite.
But I don't think Trump's win (or the general control the GOP has over the government) can be completely attributed to the Democrats incompetence. Truth be told, during the Obama era a lot of people got drawn into this alt-right movement (there was a thread about white guys getting radicalized online) and having a black president made that easy to do. Trump's rise is reflective of that. Keep in mind that Trump is a guy who spent years claiming the first black president wasn't born in America (for no real reason other than him being black) and most of the population was fine with this (at least fine enough with it to still vote for him).
So I guess my point is that, as bad as the Dem party is (and it is bad), at some point you have to admit that a lot of the reason Trump won is because a large part of the country likes him and his rhetoric.
I mean shyt didn't dudes poll numbers go up after he called out the mexicans back in sept 15.
He opened the box to what this country is and used it
