Lets Talk African History: The Swahili Coast

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I find this passage very interesting.


The Zanj say to the Arabs: You are so ignorant that during the jahiliyya (the times of ignorance ) you regarded us as your equals when it came to marrying Arab women, but with the advent of the justice of Islam you decided this practice was bad. Yet the desert is full of Zanj married to Arab wives, and they have been princes and kings and have safeguarded your rights and sheltered you against your enemies.

You even have sayings in your language which vaunt the deeds of our kings–deeds which you often placed above your own; this you would not have done had you not considered them superior to your own.

Basically again shows the superiorty of Zanj(Swahili)/blacks over Arabs. To a point that Zanj people were not only freely marrying Arab women(a very BIG CONTRAST from today), Zanj basically claiming that they always safeguarded Arabs and their mixed off springs may have been princes and kings, but more importantly the Arabs viewed the BLACK Zanj kings as superior to their own!:ohmy::dead:

White Supremacy indeed has done a number on us...:wow:
 

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Another passage from the book where it states Arabs looked up to Zanj kings...

Labid ibn Radi’a recited the following:
If a person could reach eternity during his lifetime, Abu Yaksum would be among those.
This kind of virtue has never been ascribed to anyone before.
The (Zanj) also say: from Labid’s verses it becomes also clear that you put our kings higher then your own. Darkness came over those who survived from Muharriq’s family. Darkness that had done its work with Tubba and Heraclius, Darkness that had vanquished Abraha, who was living in the palace of Mawkal. So he prefers Abraha , but he would like the other kings to be his equals.
 

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Not only were there free Zanj in Iraq and they were having a lot of children, but those same children were said to have big influence in Iraq when they stayed, while other immigrants did not. And the Zanj were kinda racist against the non-blacks like the Greeks.

They say; If a Zanji and a Zanji women marry and their children remain after puberty in Iraq, they come to rule the roost thanks to their numbers, endurance, knowledge, and efficiency. On the other hand, the child of an Indian and an Indian woman, or of a Greek and a Greek woman, or of a Khurasani and a Khurasani women remain among you and in your country in the same condition as their fathers and mother
 

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Supposedly there's a lot of blacks in Iraq even today

And that's something I really want to get to. But anyways it seems the Swahili/Zanj were like the "Moors" of East Africa, but I'll even say that their influence was bigger in the Indian Ocean world than the Moors influence in the Mediterranean world...
 

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Anyways I find this really interesting and kinda shows that the Zanj must have had a large presence in different parts of the world. I had doubts about an East African Bantu person traveling to Persia and leaving descendants that included a king or religious leader, but then I read this...
Khurramis in Azerbaijan had come to trace their origin to a pre-Islamic prince named Sharwin whose mother was a Persian princess and whose father was min al-Zanj which sounds like a corruption of some local named, and whom they held to be more meritorious than all the prophets, Muhammad included
The Nativist Prophets of Early Islamic Iran: Rural Revolt and Local
 
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On Africans in Arabia and Greater Syria, M.C. Zilfi says in Women and Slavery in the Late Ottoman Empire (2010):"Discrimination based on color was not unknown in these regions, but in many respects, black Africans seem not to have been worse off than free Arabs from the less pedigreed tribes. In any case, many free Arab tribesmen of long lineage were phenotypically indistinguishable from black Africans."
 

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Now onto a VERY big matter and probably my last post in this thread. Many think the Zanj revolt was a slave rebellion, but historians say that there is no support for such a thing and I agree. For one the Arab slave trade did not really take off and reach its heights until the 18th and 19th century. Yeah, the Arab slave trade happened before those centuries, but it wasn't as big and plus before the 18th and 19th century the large number of slaves at that time were actually Europeans; Slavs to be precise. Heck "slave" comes from the word "Slav" in the first place.

M. A. Shaban's Islamic History: A.D. 750-1055 (A.H. 132-448) in the section "Regional Economic Conflicts":

"All the talk about slaves rising against the wretched conditions of work in the salt marshes of Basra is a figment of the imagination and has no support in the sources. [...] The vast majority of the rebels were Arabs of the Persian Gulf supported by free East Africans who had made their homes in the region [...]If more proof is needed that it was not a slave revolt, it is to be found in the fact that it had a highly organized army and navy which vigorously resisted the whole weight of the central government for almost fifteen years.Moreover, it must have had huge resources that allowed it to build no less than six impregnable towns in which there were arsenals for the manufacture of weapons and battleships. These towns also had in their mammoth markets prodigious wealth which was more than the salt marshes could conceivably produce. Even all the booty from Basra and the whole region could not account for such enormous wealth.Significantly the revolt had the backing of a certain group of merchants who persevered with their support until the very end. Tabari makes it very clear that the strength of the rebels was dependent on the support of these merchants."

"With remarkable efficiency and expedition the rebels swiftly established their control over most of the Persian Gulf coast, and extended it inland to secure their food supplies. Special vehemence was reserved for the port of Basra, which they practically destroyed. Their choice of sites for their own new towns and their meticulous knowledge of the intricate waterways of the region in addition to their great skill in naval warfare were all utilized to strangle the Basran economy and drive all the in-coming trade through their own channels."

Moreover why would African merchants risk capital on a slave revolt? Like I said it seems the Zanj/Swahilis must have had a big role in different parts of the world. But more importantly if Arabs largely castrated their slaves, then who do these people descend from? :wink:





There was A LOT of free Zanj in Iraq who came as merchants among other things.
 

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More in depth on trade between the Swahilis and Chinese. I swear these people were something else..:wow:


ISLAMIC AFRICAN EMPIRES

^But again the Original source is from the book, They Came Before Marco Polo.

And again so much for the idea of the primitive Africans never being able to sail.:mjlol:

And being able to sail as far away to China... Also their trade with China brings up another interesting point in that trade with China goes back further. I guess what we are seeing today is just a continuation of this... Meanwhile when Europe traded with Africa(and even to this day) things never went well...
there's so many movie that can be made of this culture it's unbelievable. Imagine the cinematography.:mjcry:
 

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