Let's talk about how 50 Cent actually is the mogul that Jay-Z pretends to be..

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He owns a tiny stake in the Nets and it isn't making him any money (the team has consistently lost money every year, why do you think Jay and the Russian were even able to buy it? They sure wouldn't be able to buy into the Lakers or Knicks - they're not selling)

50 owned like a quarter or so of Vitamin Water and reportedly got $100M from the sale to Coca-Cola :youngsabo:



This is what I mean when I say some people shouldnt speak on business when its obvious they have never been near a boardroom


with that tiny stake he managed to put his 50/50 club in the new stadium

with that tiny stake he held sold out concerts at the stadium, Im pretty sure hes got a return on his tiny stake already

with that tiny stake he got himself masses of free publicity which he has used as a springboard for other opportunities


you do realise with the team having relocated to a new stadium if he were to sell that tiny stake he would make a big profit right?




like i said some of you dont understand how business works
 

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This is what I mean when I say some people shouldnt speak on business when its obvious they have never been near a boardroom


with that tiny stake he managed to put his 50/50 club in the new stadium

with that tiny stake he held sold out concerts at the stadium, Im pretty sure hes got a return on his tiny stake already

with that tiny stake he got himself masses of free publicity which he has used as a springboard for other opportunities


you do realise with the team having relocated to a new stadium if he were to sell that tiny stake he would make a big profit right?




like i said some of you dont understand how business works

He can open a club, do concerts, and get publicity anyway

None of that is a return on the investment in the team

He could've done everything you're saying without buying that small portion of the Nets, and you're saying all of that came out of the Nets investment :skip:

If all he was looking for was money he could've booked more shows during all the time he spends on being a mascot for the Nets and he would've made more

Obviously the Nets thing isn't about making money if the team is consistently losing value and he only owns a tiny part of it (he's not confident enough to make a big investment) - he's clearly doing it because he "loves the attention" he gets from being a team "owner" :huhldup:

His stake probably decreased in value since he got it considering all the money needed to build the new stadium (more debt for the organization)

Jay lost
He doesn't even own the Roc-A-Fella brand
He doesn't even own his first album, Dame does
 
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He can open a club, do concerts, and get publicity anyway

None of that is a return on the investment in the team

He could've done everything you're saying without buying that small portion of the Nets, and you're saying all of that came out of the Nets investment :skip:

If all he was looking for was money he could've booked more shows during all the time he spends on being a mascot for the Nets and he would've made more

Obviously the Nets thing isn't about making money if the team is consistently losing value and he only owns a tiny part of it (he's not confident enough to make a big investment) - he's clearly doing it because he "loves the attention" he gets from being a team "owner" :huhldup:

His stake probably decreased in value since he got it considering all the money needed to build the new stadium (more debt for the organization)

Jay lost
He doesn't even own the Roc-A-Fella brand
He doesn't even own his first album, Dame does
cant say jay losing.......but you and @Nemesis both make up valid points......

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He can open a club, do concerts, and get publicity anyway

None of that is a return on the investment in the team

He could've done everything you're saying without buying that small portion of the Nets, and you're saying all of that came out of the Nets investment :skip:

If all he was looking for was money he could've booked more shows during all the time he spends on being a mascot for the Nets and he would've made more

Obviously the Nets thing isn't about making money if the team is consistently losing value and he only owns a tiny part of it (he's not confident enough to make a big investment) - he's clearly doing it because he "loves the attention" he gets from being a team "owner" :huhldup:

His stake probably decreased in value since he got it considering all the money needed to build the new stadium (more debt for the organization)

Jay lost
He doesn't even own the Roc-A-Fella brand
He doesn't even own his first album, Dame does




1. if you think that he could have put a club at that stadium for the same monetary terms without being an investor youre delusional

2. Im pretty sure he didnt have to pay the same rates for holding those concerts as an outside promoter

3. The franchise is bigger,they are making more money, this is a team that hads had major investment, for you to actually think that because the team has incurred more debt his investment is worth less is abysmal thinking....a new stadium actually adds to the value of the company......lol


4. 50 cant doesnt own any of his masters
 

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He can open a club, do concerts, and get publicity anyway

None of that is a return on the investment in the team

He could've done everything you're saying without buying that small portion of the Nets, and you're saying all of that came out of the Nets investment

If all he was looking for was money he could've booked more shows during all the time he spends on being a mascot for the Nets and he would've made more

Obviously the Nets thing isn't about making money if the team is consistently losing value and he only owns a tiny part of it (he's not confident enough to make a big investment) - he's clearly doing it because he "loves the attention" he gets from being a team "owner"

His stake probably decreased in value since he got it considering all the money needed to build the new stadium (more debt for the organization)

Jay lost
He doesn't even own the Roc-A-Fella brand
He doesn't even own his first album, Dame does

You're wrong about just about everything you've said.

How could the Nets be losing money? Basketball teams don't lose money. Leagues lose money. If the NBA is doing well, all their teams are too. What would make you think they are?

Nope, he doesn't own Roc-A-Fella. He sold it for millions and then took control of it as a bonus.

He owns 1/3 of his debut album and he can get the other 2/3 if he was willing to pay for it. Biggs' bum ass is in jail, that'd be no problem. He could've gotten it when Dame's bum ass went broke if it were such a concern to him.

Yall are trying WAY to hard.
 

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this thread is stupid on so many levels:

rocawear is still sold. g-unit clothing isn't, nor did it thrive when it was.

Rocawear is trash

jay-z holds significant stock in several successful companies and a sports team. 50 cent attached his name to vitamin water.

What are these companies. His hotels that was gonna blow up or the gm Deal where his favorite hue jayz blue was gonna be gm hot new color.

jay-z is selling out shows across the globe. nobody cares about 50 cent's music anymore.

You know 50 cent was doing that first and 50 can tour any place globally that jay can.

after successfully sitting at the top of def jam, jay-z has managed to make a comfortable transition to roc nation, where he's presided over the release of several successful artists. g-unit records is a flop as a label.

Jayz do not run roc nation. Artist signed to roc nation have given interviews and said they've never even met jayz.
:what: @ thread starter.
 

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1. if you think that he could have put a club at that stadium for the same monetary terms without being an investor youre delusional

2. Im pretty sure he didnt have to pay the same rates for holding those concerts as an outside promoter

3. The franchise is bigger,they are making more money, this is a team that hads had major investment, for you to actually think that because the team has incurred more debt his investment is worth less is abysmal thinking....a new stadium actually adds to the value of the company......lol


4. 50 cant doesnt own any of his masters

You're wrong about just about everything you've said.

How could the Nets be losing money? Basketball teams don't lose money. Leagues lose money. If the NBA is doing well, all their teams are too. What would make you think they are?

Nope, he doesn't own Roc-A-Fella. He sold it for millions and then took control of it as a bonus.

He owns 1/3 of his debut album and he can get the other 2/3 if he was willing to pay for it. Biggs' bum ass is in jail, that'd be no problem. He could've gotten it when Dame's bum ass went broke if it were such a concern to him.

Yall are trying WAY to hard.
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I didn't realize both of you guys were jay-z's financial advisors . You don't know any of the specifics of jays contracts and various deals. You don't mention livenation which gets part of jays concert money and other stuff . I applaud jay for his hustle but stop acting like you know more than you do .

50 and diddy getting stakes in ciroc and vitamin water and making big money off that is too me more impressive than what jay did . The nets deal was a no Brainer to make money , a basketball team moving into a basketball City in a new arena in a major market who's shocked that the nets value jumped up incredibly .50 and diddy got involved in more risky businesses and succeeded .

And with 50s masters he's had more success musically than jay so why sell them to him if your interscope ?
 

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In many ways I agree

But Jay Marrying Beyonce was the Ultimate Power move IMO

His net Worth probably trippled by marrying that B1tch

and because of that Jay and B Are the only "hiphop" power couple around

Jay Marrying Beyonce Guarantees his music will always accepted by Mainstream Media and Pop culture in general

I do agree that 50 has accomplished more on an Indiviaul Entrepreneurial
level than Jay has.. Jay is defintely overrated in this aspect


Jay's Greatest Hustle was making the song "Can I Get a Wha What" and Marrying Beyonce
 

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And do people realize how similar those livenation deals are to 360 deals . :deadmanny: not saying jay isn't making money but the reason he tours so much must have something to do with all the money livenation gave him .
 

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this thread is stupid on so many levels:

rocawear is still sold. g-unit clothing isn't, nor did it thrive when it was.

jay-z holds significant stock in several successful companies and a sports team. 50 cent attached his name to vitamin water.

jay-z is selling out shows across the globe. nobody cares about 50 cent's music anymore.

after successfully sitting at the top of def jam, jay-z has managed to make a comfortable transition to roc nation, where he's presided over the release of several successful artists. g-unit records is a flop as a label.

:what: @ thread starter.
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:comeon: at comparing G Unit records to Roc Nation.

Roc A Fella would have been a better comparison, G Unit never had a Rihanna, without her Roc Nation is :flabbynsick: and is no better than G Unit records was, success wise.
:what:

J. Cole, Rita Ora, Alexis Jordan and Willow Smith ALL have platinum singles in a 2 year span

Jay's on that international grind now, hip hop ain't all he got.

Dame brought cam to the roc, with the dips... brought State property into the fold too.

he's the one who took a chance on Kanye.

Rihanna isn't even signed to RocNation, she's managed by them.... you do know that Riri is signed to Def Jam.....right?
Yeah... and who signed Rihanna to Def Jam?

stop it, it's disgusting.
 
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