Lets not forget that Kobe Bryant won 2 championships with a sidekick worse than Kevin Love

[Swagnificent]

Pau Gasol (before he joined Kobe), according to stats, which I'm told by LeBron stans is how to "objectively" judge a player, is a worse basketball player than Kevin Love (before he joined LeBron).

Here are the OBJECTIVE and UNBIASED numbers for all to see.

Kevin Love (Per 36 mins) on Minnesota (6 seasons): Kevin Love Stats | Basketball-Reference.com
21.1 PPG (56.6 TS%)
13.4 RPG
2.7 APG
0.7 SPG
0.5 BPG
23.2 PER
- 3-time NBA All-Star
- 2nd team All-NBA (2x)

Pau Gasol (Per 36 mins) on Memphis (7 seasons): Pau Gasol Stats | Basketball-Reference.com
19.1 PPG (56.6 TS%)
8.7 RPG
3.1 APG
0.5 SPG
1.9 BPG
21.6 PER
- 1-time NBA All-Star
- no All-NBA selections

Looking at the numbers, there is a clear edge to Kevin Love in almost every category outside of blocks and assists. The advanced stats like PER also favor Kevin Love over Pau Gasol (23.2 vs 21.6). Also when you look at the awards (like All-Star and All-NBA selections), they also favor Kevin Love over Pau Gasol. Before joining Kobe, Pau was a 1-time All-Star and never made an All-NBA team. While Kevin Love (before joining LeBron) was a 3-time All-Star and 2-time All-NBA 2nd team selection.

LeBron has zero excuses to not a ring this year if we're to believe that he's better than Kobe as his stans always say. Kobe took a worse player statistically than Kevin Love to 3 straight finals and won back to back rings. If Kobe can win 2 rings with just Pau Gasol, LeBron has no excuse for not winning with just Kevin Love.

 

[jdubnyce]

Bron stay on nikkas minds

 

[Swagnificent]

Bron stay on nikkas minds

Stats ain't even my thing. However, according to Bron stans that's the only way to OBJECTIVELY judge one player against another.

Using my eyes, I know Kevin Love is TOTAL TRASH and Pau Gasol is much better. But if I'm to believe Bron stans that my eyes can lie to me and instead the box score tells the truth, then they also have to accept the fact that Kevin Love was a superior player to Pau Gasol before he joined LeBron.

 

[Hater]

Gasol only had 2 good seasons with the Lakers

 

[Rout3r2035]

Gasol only had 2 good seasons with the Lakers

WOAT ungrateful fanbase

 

[Remote]

Pau Gasol in the first full 3 years with LA:

.600 TS
39.6 Win Shares
15.4 Value Over Replacement

Kevin Love in his first 3 years with Cleveland:

.562 TS
23.6 Win Shares
6.5 Value Over Replacement

Gasol also beats Love in WS/48 (.225 to .165 for Love in case you wanted to bytch about games Love missed)

Fakkit.

 

[AlphaOne]

Y’all some ungrateful fukks.

Pau was great on the lakers and I don’t check advanced stats I use my eyes.

Terrible thread.

 

[Boolean]

Pau also the reason they lost in in 08

 

[Young Fab]

Lets not forget Joey Crawford and Stan Van Gundy's contributions to those 2 championships.

 

[Lakerman0834]

Pau Gasol in the first full 3 years with LA:

.600 TS
39.6 Win Shares
15.4 Value Over Replacement

Kevin Love in his first 3 years with Cleveland:

.562 TS
23.6 Win Shares
6.5 Value Over Replacement

Gasol also beats Love in WS/48 (.225 to .165 for Love in case you wanted to bytch about games Love missed)

Fakkit.

Not loves fault bron makes teammates worse while kobe lifts his opponents up.

 

[Swagnificent]

Pau Gasol in the first full 3 years with LA:

.600 TS
39.6 Win Shares
15.4 Value Over Replacement

Kevin Love in his first 3 years with Cleveland:

.562 TS
23.6 Win Shares
6.5 Value Over Replacement

Gasol also beats Love in WS/48 (.225 to .165 for Love in case you wanted to bytch about games Love missed)

Fakkit.

Thank you for proving part 2 of my argument. Kobe makes players around him BETTER. While LeBron makes them WORSE.

The analytics said that BEFORE Gasol joined Kobe he was worse than Love. Playing with Kobe made him better. While playing with LeBron made Kevin Love worse.

 

[Premeditated]

5 star thread

but you not gonna get any objective takes from Bron stans and Laker haters.

 

[Swagnificent]

Y’all some ungrateful fukks.

Pau was great on the lakers and I don’t check advanced stats I use my eyes.

Terrible thread.

Maybe you've never heard of the argument style of using someone else's argument against them. I never said that I thought Love was better than Gasol. Like you, I use my eyes to judge players. That's why I know Kobe is much better than LeBron regardless of LeBron's penchant of stat padding.

However, Bron stans say we should look at numbers and box scores to judge players. And according to the numbers, before Kevin Love joined LeBron, he was statistically the better player when compared to Pau Gasol (before he joined Kobe).

I'm simply using Bron stans own argument against them.

 

[duncanthetall]

Swag you really need a hobby my man

 

[Swagnificent]

5 star thread

but you not gonna get any objective takes from Bron stans and Laker haters.

Exactly. They're already trying to change the subject of this thread from being about the facts at hand and instead into me being "obsessed" with Bron.