Lets make sure this gets a sticky:The Official Ruthless Records Appreciation thread

[Wacky D]

what bugged me out was when i was watching "the message" hip-hop documentary on BET last year.

the death row segment when snoop was claiming that death row was the 1st to do blah blah blah. i was listening and thinking ruthless had already did all of this. then snoop kept going on and claimed that they had r&b stars. and im thinking like death row aint never even release an r&b album. but ruthless dropped r&b albums and gave us michel'le.

thats when i realized that ruthless should get the same props as death row. problem is, they have no machine pushing their legacy, and i always figured they were sorta blackballed. their main problem is that they had their biggest runs as a label before '93. most modern fans just look at them as the label that had NWA and then bone thugs years later. modern logic doesnt really the label's history as a whole outside of those 2 groups.

remember when mtv jams used to have those rap dynasty weekends? they never included ruthless.

cold chillin suffers from that problem as well. and of course sugar hill & enjoy are just non-existent to these lazy "historians".

 

[QamYasharahla]

what bugged me out was when i was watching "the message" hip-hop documentary on BET last year.

the death row segment when snoop was claiming that death row was the 1st to do blah blah blah. i was listening and thinking ruthless had already did all of this. then snoop kept going on and claimed that they had r&b stars. and im thinking like death row aint never even release an r&b album. but ruthless dropped r&b albums and gave us michel'le.

thats when i realized that ruthless should get the same props as death row. problem is, they have no machine pushing their legacy, and i always figured they were sorta blackballed. their main problem is that they had their biggest runs as a label before '93. most modern fans just look at them as the label that had NWA and then bone thugs years later. modern logic doesnt really the label's history as a whole outside of those 2 groups.

remember when mtv jams used to have those rap dynasty weekends? they never included ruthless.

cold chillin suffers from that problem as well. and of course sugar hill & enjoy are just non-existent to these lazy "historians".

Michel'le dropped an album on Death Row, but it was in 1998 so 9 years after Ruthless. I guess Snoop means they were the first to make what they were doing mainstream which I kind of agree with, but it really just boils down to them having longevity over Ruthless. Ruthless could have been as big as Death Row because when you really think about it, Death Row didn't have that many artists. Their whole legacy rested on a few shoulders, but they were able to carry the load.

 

[Wacky D]

Michel'le dropped an album on Death Row, but it was in 1998 so 9 years after Ruthless. I guess Snoop means they were the first to make what they were doing mainstream which I kind of agree with, but it really just boils down to them having longevity over Ruthless. Ruthless could have been as big as Death Row because when you really think about it, Death Row didn't have that many artists. Their whole legacy rested on a few shoulders, but they were able to carry the load.

ruthless had more longevity than death row by far.
and they were mainstream too, and sold more records with less effort.

now i'd say that death row had the bigger peak run, which is the 1st thing that we look at in these comparisons. but ruthless kind of outclasses them in everything else the more i think about it. the problem is, most of us dont think about it - myself included.

WE'RE ALL WARPED BREH.

 

[QamYasharahla]

ruthless had more longevity than death row by far.

and they were mainstream too, and sold more records with less effort.

Death Row went strong from '91-'96 and that's the end of '96. Ruthless Records might have been founded prior and released albums over a longer period, but I'd hardly say they had the longevity of Death Row when you take record sales into account. Those were a STRONG five years for Death Row.

 

[Wacky D]

Death Row went strong from '91-'96 and that's the end of '96. Ruthless Records might have been founded prior and released albums over a longer period, but I'd hardly say they had the longevity of Death Row when you take record sales into account. Those were a STRONG five years for Death Row.

death row really didnt blow until '93. and they were done by the end of the makaveli singles run. thats 4 years breh.

ruthless' biggest run was '88-91. and they stayed strong up until eazy died. then it became the logo on the back of bone cds, but hey bone outsold EVERYBODY on death row.

as far as the r&b goes from the previous post; i remember michel'le having a video on BET in '98, but i never saw a commercial or nothin. i hear nate dogg dropped an album that year as well. i wouldnt call these star releases when most people dont know about em. and when we think michel'le, we think ruthless

 

[DANJ!]

Ruthless having more longevity is questionable...

Yeah, it was IN EXISTENCE for a long ass time, but shyt was pretty much resting on Bone's shoulders by the time they came out. Because they had a roster full of failing acts. Blood of Abraham, Atban Klann (aka Black Eyed Peas), Kid Frost, HWA, and all types of muhfukkas that were moving little to nothing. Above the Law still had some quality shyt here and there, and even MC Ren had kinda drifted into mediocrity. So by quantity and being in existence, sure Ruthless was still in the game. But it didn't have that kinda run like Death Row had. For a solid four/five years, anything with that Death Row name attached was certified... Ruthless had that between that '88-'91 time block (and even then, there was shyt like Tairrie B that wasn't poppin')... but then it became a flop factory for anything outside of Eazy and then BTNH (one group in a long line of artists who were bricking). Death Row's biggest problem (outside of the fukkery) was that they didnt always capitalize. There's no way Rage should've been on the shelf and being pushed back constantly after Afro Puffs blew, or for that matter even tha Dogg Pound shyt took waaaay long to drop.

 

[QamYasharahla]

death row really didnt blow until '93. and they were done by the end of the makaveli singles run. thats 4 years breh.

ruthless' biggest run was '88-91. and they stayed strong up until eazy died. then it became the logo on the back of bone cds, but hey bone outsold EVERYBODY on death row.

as far as the r&b goes from the previous post; i remember michel'le having a video on BET in '98, but i never saw a commercial or nothin. i hear nate dogg dropped an album that year as well. i wouldnt call these star releases when most people dont know about em. and when we think michel'le, we think ruthless

The Chronic dropped late 1992, but they had there name out there in 1991, but let's say 93-96. That's a shorter timeframe for Death Row to do what it did, so that's even more to their credit. Plus they still had stuff come out later like Michel'le, Chronic 2000 etc. To keep it completely honest, when I think Ruthless, I think the main people like B.G. Knocc Out, Dresta, Eazy, D.O.C. With that said, I'd hardly say they went strong until Eazy's death in 1995. Some albums Ruthless dropped didn't even sell 10K. Sure, Bone brought them back to the forefront, but Bone didn't really sell like that until after Eazy's death with E.1999. Death Row is legendary, but fukk Death Row. This is Ruthless Records' thread.

 

[DaHNIC82]

Eazy signed a jewish rap group to Ruthless.. These kids were pretty dope

 

[DaHNIC82]

Neighborhood Sniper was wicked!

 

[SteelCitySoldier]

Eazy Dagawd. West Coast King. Day NWA movie drops I'm in that bytch with Black dikkies, Black Project Nikes, Compton hat and this hockey jersey

 

[DaHNIC82]

One of my favorite jawns from 92. I remember us blasting this in my Cousin's cutless

 

[Yehuda]

By the way, MC Ren gotta be one of the most underrated MC's ever

 

[DaHNIC82]

Considering the friction between Ruthless and Death Row, I'm surprised Suge Ok'ed for Tupac to collab with Bone

 

[DaHNIC82]

 

[Yehuda]

Considering the friction between Ruthless and Death Row, I'm surprised Suge Ok'ed for Tupac to collab with Bone

Nah Eazy had already passed away by the time they took this picture, there wasn't bad blood between them anymore