Let's Keep It RoseMo700, Pippen would get demolished by Bron or Durant

[shopthatwrecks]

All this Dream Team '92 greatness talk and how Pippen would lock up any of the 3's today, and it got me to searchin' how played against the best 3's of his days... What i found was


VS.

Domonique Wilkins (From 87-96) (31 games)
28.5pts/6.5rbs/48% w/3 40 point games

Grant Hill (From 96-00) (10 Games)

23.5pts/8.8rbs/6ast/49% w/ a 37 point game


Chris Mullin (From 88-93) (10 games)

24.3pts/5.6rbs/53% w/ a 38 point game


Glen Rice (From 92-98) (24 games)

18.9pts/3.7rbs/43%


Jamal Mashburn (From 94-99) (7 games)
22.8pts/6.1rbs/40% w/a 50 point game


James Worthy (from 88-93) (12 games)

21.1pts/4.7rbs/48%


Glen "Big Dog" Robinson (94-03)

22.6pts/6.3rbs/49% W/ 3 games of 35+


Lets face it, Pip got by on reputation much like dominating the NBA All Defensive team throught the '00s

U mean to tell me a guy who was torched consistently by Chris Mullin, and had 50 dropped on him by Mashburn would somehow summon his Super Saiyan powers and shutdown LeBron or Durant... Hell... Even Melo. FOH

@ nostalgia and revisionist history

everybody u name was legit be4 their injuries kicked in...

mullin always been my favorite peckerwood..

n mashburn been underrated 4 yrs...top 3 fadeways belong to mashburn..dirk n jordan no particular order...that too short lookin nikka could ball his ass off

 

[NUPE 1911]

This thread is basura.

 

[Carlos Huerta]

Pippen was a solid defender but revisionists do overrate his defense

this is true. In recent years i've noticed Pippen just getting a lot more love as time passes.

 

[Art Barr]

All this Dream Team '92 greatness talk and how Pippen would lock up any of the 3's today, and it got me to searchin' how played against the best 3's of his days... What i found was


VS.

Domonique Wilkins (From 87-96) (31 games)
28.5pts/6.5rbs/48% w/3 40 point games

Grant Hill (From 96-00) (10 Games)

23.5pts/8.8rbs/6ast/49% w/ a 37 point game


Chris Mullin (From 88-93) (10 games)

24.3pts/5.6rbs/53% w/ a 38 point game


Glen Rice (From 92-98) (24 games)

18.9pts/3.7rbs/43%


Jamal Mashburn (From 94-99) (7 games)
22.8pts/6.1rbs/40% w/a 50 point game


James Worthy (from 88-93) (12 games)

21.1pts/4.7rbs/48%


Glen "Big Dog" Robinson (94-03)

22.6pts/6.3rbs/49% W/ 3 games of 35+


Lets face it, Pip got by on reputation much like dominating the NBA All Defensive team throught the '00s

U mean to tell me a guy who was torched consistently by Chris Mullin, and had 50 dropped on him by Mashburn would somehow summon his Super Saiyan powers and shutdown LeBron or Durant... Hell... Even Melo. FOH

@ nostalgia and revisionist history

you are the revisionist.

as you know nuffin about the defensive philosophy, and complexion of the game.

nor,..the coaching change in those numbers to properly speak on them.

plus the philosophy that phil instituted.

to consistently best and beat teams staffed with dominate superstars.

art barr

 

[Luke Cage]

Scorers are gonna get there number regardless. You can put these kind averages up for any defender. matter fact i remember someone post shaqs numbers against hakeem. His average was like 27ppg but anybody who watched them play knows that hakeem shytted on him all the time.

whoever said numbers never lie was lying.

 

[MrFantastic]

And yet none of them dudes beat Pip in a playoff series...

 

[Megatron Island]

6'8, 40+" (listed as 48") vertical jump, 7'3" wingspan, great defensive technique/instinct would give anybody problems. Players today might get the better of him every now and then, but there isn't another forward in history I'd take over defending the wing than Pippen.

They'll get the best of him every now and then, but Pippen would shut them down some games too.

 

[rapbeats]

How the fukk would a handcheck stop LeBron James?

it depends on who's doing the handchecking. Metta world peace, kobe? or kevin durant.

3 different type of handchecks. different level of strength.

Metta could slow down bron alot if he was allowed to handcheck him 90's style.

people dont remember guys getting that handcheck put on them and completely destroying their scoring ability.derek harper who i hated for that handchecking. would literally guide the guy is was guarding, with his handchecking hand.

i've seen him do it to supposedly stronger guys, much faster.quicker guys. didnt matter. and he had ZERO athletic ability.

 

[rapbeats]

6'8, 40+" (listed as 48") vertical jump, 7'3" wingspan, great defensive technique/instinct would give anybody problems. Players today might get the better of him every now and then, but there isn't another forward in history I'd take over defending the wing than Pippen.

They'll get the best of him every now and then, but Pippen would shut them down some games too.

the guy could also jump extremely well off of either foot. i still remember MJ talking about pippen. saying he was a better athlete then him because he could jump so well off of either foot. which means unlike the rest of us. he doesnt have to time it right, or count his steps depending on which way he's approaching the basket. Pip was a freak of nature.

 

[Rakim Allah]

Lets face it, Pip got by on reputation much like dominating the NBA All Defensive team the last few years.

Fixed

 

[bigblue99]

No one player no matter how great a defender they are can consistently lockdown a great scorer.

Only team defense or double teaming can slow them down.

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Bron and KD are rare breeds. No shame in Pippen getting abused by them, which he would.

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

it depends on who's doing the handchecking. Metta world peace, kobe? or kevin durant.

3 different type of handchecks. different level of strength.

Metta could slow down bron alot if he was allowed to handcheck him 90's style.

people dont remember guys getting that handcheck put on them and completely destroying their scoring ability.derek harper who i hated for that handchecking. would literally guide the guy is was guarding, with his handchecking hand.

i've seen him do it to supposedly stronger guys, much faster.quicker guys. didnt matter. and he had ZERO athletic ability.

It's not just about strength. You have to have the footspeed and Ron ain't quick enough for Bron. Not to lock him down consistently.

If he got his hands on him, he might win that particular possession though.

But if was just about strength Shaq would be able to guard AI and that's just absurd.

All handchecking means is you can put your hand on the guy's hip. The best handchekers, like my man Derek Harper would put a little squeeze on. But you can't just push the guy, that was a foul. So getting your hand on him isn't enough if he's too quick for you.

Handchecking benefited smaller, quicker players more so than bigger, more physical players.

 

[Street Knowledge]

he got massacred by Kobe repeatedly

 

[#1 pick]

oh boy, see you must be to young to remember by the time pip was in portland. he was done athletically due to foot problems. i dont remember if it was a bad ankle or achilles. he had a similar issue to what rashard lewis use to go thru every time seattle would get to the offs and he would have foot issues. those feet issues can kill your game. ask yao ming, ask rik smits.

now you telling me PRIME pipp couldnt lock up kd. you're lying to yourself and you're overrating kd, and you are not respecting the lack of rules put into place nowadays to HELP skinny not that strong guys like KD. get to the rack. they dont allow you to touch and push/hold guys like the did in the 90's and 80's. you could really get up in a dude back then and put your weight/strength on him. not hacking. but all up in his jersey. and there would be no early whistle that makes you back off.

most of durants points come from him running around an illegal perkins screen or fastbreak, to semi transition baskets. he doesnt do a lot of 1 vs 1 in the halfcourt scoring lets say like a kobe or mj. thats because he doesnt have the foot work or physical strength to pull that off yet.

the reason Metta can no longer lock up durant isnt cause durants is so good all of a sudden. its cause the coach realized after ROn locked him KD isnt and never will be big/strong enough to deal with a physical defender that plays angles well. so the only way to get kd off is to run him off of screens.

when kobe used to go up against ron back in ron's prime. ron gave him a hard time as well. but unlike kd's team and coaching staff. pjax didnt give kobe more picks vs ron in the triangle. kobe had to learn how to beat Ron on his own. this kind of player no longer exists in the nba. which is why an old school hyper athletic defender like pip. could lock up anyone in the nba currently, in pips prime. not PORTLAND bad foot injury pippen. healthy BULLS PIPPEN.

dudes were not scoring like crazy cause the man to man defense was 10 times better. then you had to meet real true to life bigmen who were known shot blockers in the paint.

the reason i will still say KB is better then MJ. is cause he plays in the new era, vs longer more athletic guys, also vs zone defenses(keeping you out of the paint), in addition to nba refs allowing guys to grab and hold kobe on the perimeter like its 1990 something. so he's playing in two eras more or less. it gets no rougher then that. but the rest of these youngins. would be crying to the refs. now sure if you put them in todays era with todays soft "dont touch on the perimeter" rules. most defenders would no longer be LOCKDOWN Defenders. notice there is no such thing as lockdown defender anymore. why is that? thats cause the rules wont allow you to lock anyone up anymore. they want to make it so guys will have an easier time scoring. they did this because after the Mj, bark, era. guys coming in couldnt dribble legally, couldnt shoot to save their lives. and only had one move to get to the basket. so stern and the nba voted on rules that would help boost scoring or atleast make it easier to score. so viewership would go up. the game was SUPER ugly back then. it was hard to watch.

Scottie was skinny in 92'.

I think you having revisionist history or combining eras again like most fools do.