lets keep it a 💯 : J Love & CJ Stroud >> T Lawerance & J Hurbert

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CJ might be the black Brady. People forget how love was looking in college. Had a bad senior year but he was doing all that off platform, rocket throws. His ceiling was sky high. Packers did right by him
Having Rogers helped him as well. All.season you could see how much he learned from him

ARod still a dikkhead but he did right by dude
 

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stop dap fishing Rhakim. You don't even watch the games. It's over for you.


Imagine bringing hate into a black quarterback thread just because you don't like LeBron. From the way you post, you give the impression you care about me more than you care about any sport.


I will NEVER stop showing love for Black quarterbacks no matter how much I care about the NFL itself. It's bigger than that. shyt like this has an impact on stereotypes and how all Black men are viewed in society.
 

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It's coming. AR15 and hopefully Bryce will have good second seasons.

Plus, the way CJ and Jordan have been precision passers from the pocket, you can't even say "they're running backs" or "they're not cerebral"


It's still going to be uphill for Bryce, but so many more are on deck. Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Michael Pennix, and Jordan Travis all coming out next year.

That's the thing - in the past all those hopes would have been laid on one guy. Now there are so many elite black QBs out there that it's fine for someone to be slow out the gate. I mean, we haven't even talked about Geno Smith and Josh Dobbs having their breakouts, Kyler Murray started to look like he's getting healthy again, Deshaun Watson could be elite again, Justin Fields is still young. New York fans were desperate to gas up Tommy Devito but Tyrod Taylor is the better player. It legit could be this year or the year after that we have a Sunday with majority-Black starting quarterbacks for the first time in NFL history.
 

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Imagine bringing hate into a black quarterback thread just because you don't like LeBron. From the way you post, you give the impression you care about me more than you care about any sport.


I will NEVER stop showing love for Black quarterbacks no matter how much I care about the NFL itself. It's bigger than that. shyt like this has an impact on stereotypes and how all Black men are viewed in society.
Facts. Quarterback is the only position in sports that's the de facto "leader" position. It's the most romanticized position in sports. The only one where if no player on your team really plays outstanding and you win a title, it's the one that gets the MVP. It's the position now where the MVP almost always goes to. In basketball, no team says "we don't have a franchise X so we need one".

A black QB HC combo being Walsh-Montana , Belichick-Brady, Reid-Mahomes esque would be
:wow:
 

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Facts. Quarterback is the only position in sports that's the de facto "leader" position. It's the most romanticized position in sports. The only one where if no player on your team really plays outstanding and you win a title, it's the one that gets the MVP. It's the position now where the MVP almost always goes to. In basketball, no team says "we don't have a franchise X so we need one".

A black QB HC combo being Walsh-Montana , Belichick-Brady, Reid-Mahomes esque would be
:wow:


Black coaches is the next frontier, college and pros both, and it's gonna be that much harder because the coach's performance is less objective than the quarterback's.

With a quarterback, you can see exactly what they do out on the field and they can play their way into position. The big hurdle was getting Pop Warner and middle school / high school coaches to allow young black kids to play QB, once that happened they were able to just take over the ranks each step of the way up.

But with coaching, it's so much harder to "prove" yourself - first you have to get on a staff in the first place which is hard as hell, then you have to overcome internal barriers to work your way up, then you have to convince some other team that you deserve the head coach spot (advancing to the head spot internally hard as hell because if the last coach failed, they'll pin that on you too). Then even if you get that head coaching spot, they've proven that black coaches are fired quicker and for lesser failures than white coaches.

The play of black quarterbacks can lead the way and reduce racial stigmas. But with black coaches, no matter how well you can coach, it's hard as hell to "lead" the way because there are so many barriers that will exist regardless of your performance.

Then you get to black GM and it's even harder. And let's not even talk about black ownership. The path is long as hell.
 

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no, its Josh Allen and Joe burrow

Herbert is also way better than his situation suggests

TL is extremely overrated

They been around for a while. I’m taking new blood
 

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Black coaches is the next frontier, college and pros both, and it's gonna be that much harder because the coach's performance is less objective than the quarterback's.

With a quarterback, you can see exactly what they do out on the field and they can play their way into position. The big hurdle was getting Pop Warner and middle school / high school coaches to allow young black kids to play QB, once that happened they were able to just take over the ranks each step of the way up.

But with coaching, it's so much harder to "prove" yourself - first you have to get on a staff in the first place which is hard as hell, then you have to overcome internal barriers to work your way up, then you have to convince some other team that you deserve the head coach spot (advancing to the head spot internally hard as hell because if the last coach failed, they'll pin that on you too). Then even if you get that head coaching spot, they've proven that black coaches are fired quicker and for lesser failures than white coaches.

The play of black quarterbacks can lead the way and reduce racial stigmas. But with black coaches, no matter how well you can coach, it's hard as hell to "lead" the way because there are so many barriers that will exist regardless of your performance.

Then you get to black GM and it's even harder. And let's not even talk about black ownership. The path is long as hell.
That's actually easier at this point. There are 8 Black GMs in the league right now. Problem is they're able to control the power they have over the team more than the coach. The coach is the leader of the team on the field, but off the field, a GM has the owner and team president he has to answer to. That's the issue in Atlanta right now, where it seems like Terry Fontenot has little power in the organization in the grand scheme of things, effectively making him a bit of a figurehead.

The cynic in me is starting to believe that the influx of Black GMs was a point of emphasis to try to get the "diversity police" off their backs regarding the lack of Black HCs. But either way, there has been more progress in the front office than on the field.
 

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That sounds like All QB Lives Matter.

The OP pointed out 2 QBs that receive the benefit of the doubt no matter what happens. Now with these other 2 surpassing them, give them the love too. You response was :mjpls:because Lamad has been getting criticism since he stepped into the league. It’s someone else’s turn now.
How the fukk is Herbert included in this?

Lawrence does get benefit of the doubt for sure but Herbert does not to the same extent
 

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It's still going to be uphill for Bryce, but so many more are on deck. Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Michael Pennix, and Jordan Travis all coming out next year.

That's the thing - in the past all those hopes would have been laid on one guy. Now there are so many elite black QBs out there that it's fine for someone to be slow out the gate. I mean, we haven't even talked about Geno Smith and Josh Dobbs having their breakouts, Kyler Murray started to look like he's getting healthy again, Deshaun Watson could be elite again, Justin Fields is still young. New York fans were desperate to gas up Tommy Devito but Tyrod Taylor is the better player. It legit could be this year or the year after that we have a Sunday with majority-Black starting quarterbacks for the first time in NFL history.
WHO DA fukk HYPED TOMMY DEVITO? Name one of us who talked highly of Tommy cutlets. fukk that guido and all who love him. We actually were mad they started him over Tyrod and football gawds punished us for it and Tyrod finished the season.
 
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