So why didn't this happen to the Gracie family?
Kicks in a street fight are risky, because you might hit gravel and lose balance.
you were saying?
Let's end this pro boxer vs coli discussion. Anybody decent in grappling could easily beat a pro lightweight boxer.
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you were saying?
Ezekiel 25:17
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Glad you came with the receipts, but that's only a couple losses.
EVERY cat in MMA trains BJJ for a reason. There's really no such thing as pure strikers in MMA any and those that are, have take down defense.
F*ckthemkids
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Exactly. People overestimate the punch resistance of all people, average and trained. You get tagged one good time, and you re-evaluate your entire fukking life. That's why when dudes go off on here about locking up with Tank...Like breh, he may be 150, soaking wet in a fur coat, but if he puts that left hand on you, and he will...You're getting hurt.
I mean this is still a controlled environment b. IRL you not gonna be backed up against a cage to get double legged and if u do whats stopping someone from kneeing ur balls, eye gouging, elbows…
U sound green my brother
Glad you came with the receipts, but that's only a couple losses.
EVERY cat in MMA trains BJJ for a reason. There's really no such thing as pure strikers in MMA any and those that are, have take down defense.
yeah but you know octagon and street rules are different
you cant sit on your a$$ in the streets like that
Right. Ive hurt dudes who train who weigh 30-50 lbs more than me u think I cant take a nikka on the streets liver from him
people dont realize rhey move in slow motion to cats who train. Got a big ass target on all they vitals
F*ckthemkids
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Right. Ive hurt dudes who train who weigh 30-50 lbs more than me u think I cant take a nikka on the streets liver from him
Ya'll 84 moves ahead of us. As a matter of fact most of the time ya'll just setting up traps to throw an even bigger shot. Dudes out here food, and don't even know it. Talkin bout..."I'm just gonna rush him"...End up getting pivoted on and getting chopped down.
IIVI
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Man, a BJJ brown belt is somebody who's been practing for about 9 years to earn that rank (from a good school).
They got a chance against somebody who's been boxing for 15 years.
However, some 3-year BJJ novice probably getting slept quick af by the same boxer.
It's about autonomous reactions and instincts: most novice BJJ cats would be thinking too much because they don't have the ingrained muscle memory in a dynamic conflict like that built up. Trying to remember your technique while the boxer is wiggling out of a submission you don't have quite secured means you may be getting some tempered fists to your face in a few seconds.
Well-trained vs well-trained is a good match.
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They got a chance against somebody who's been boxing for 15 years.
However, some 3-year BJJ novice probably getting slept quick af by the same boxer.
It's about autonomous reactions and instincts: most novice BJJ cats would be thinking too much because they don't have the ingrained muscle memory in a dynamic conflict like that built up. Trying to remember your technique while the boxer is wiggling out of a submission you don't have quite secured means you may be getting some tempered fists to your face in a few seconds.
Well-trained vs well-trained is a good match.
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fair point but the seasoned strikers and kickers have he same muscle memory, this is like a bow and arrow/sling shot/gun/projectile vs somebody who's quck with hand cuff or zip ties
Ya'll 84 moves ahead of us. As a matter of fact most of the time ya'll just setting up traps to throw an even bigger shot. Dudes out here food, and don't even know it. Talkin bout..."I'm just gonna rush him"...End up getting pivoted on and getting chopped down.
Ive play sparred with the homies and novices and u can basically wind people off of a light jab and feints. Nvm actually trying to hurt someone
Ezekiel 25:17
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That's not the thread title basis.
You can beat a light weight pro boxer if you have grappling experience or a muay thai background.
Right. Ive hurt dudes who train who weigh 30-50 lbs more than me u think I cant take a nikka on the streets liver from him
I think people forget that Wrestlers aren't slow. They're explosive, agile, and flexible while also able to take damage themselves. Probably the best footwork behind boxing because of the constant movement and angles they attack from.
Be honest. You think your boxing will easily work against this? That first punch gotta knock em out
IIVI
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Yeah that's what I'm saying: muscle-memory and experience going both ways is a big factor.
Fighting styles and disciplines don't win fights. Fighters win fights.
That's why some people out there think they hot shyt when they've been training for a few months, maybe years and still get folded by some random cat in public with zero training. They don't got the muscle memory yet to execute their knowledge in a dynamic up-for-grabs conflict. Your fighting discipline don't fight the fights, you do.
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Do BJ-J 
I posted a story about a kick boxing champion who went to jail and embarrassed somebody in jail who tried him
some time later, that guy snuck the kick boxing champion during breakfast time with a toaster inside of a towel.
Kick boxing champ had long term injury with bad nerves
...a toaster in a towel.... no skills
IIVI
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It's funny, you see this dynamic all the time. Too much "magazine racing" and "cheat code" mentality really.
Even in combat at the highest levels on this planet, the F-22 Raptor loses all the time in training.
I remember a combat pilot once said if the public got word about the amount of times Raptors were shot down by lesser planes during drills they'd flip out because people think the plane is unbeatable.
The truth is it's the pilot is who wins the dog fights, not the engineers. That pilot has a bad day and everybody is picking up tallies on them no matter the plane they're in. Straight up 1960 T-38 planes shooting down $200mil Raptors all the time.
Tech, knowledge, skills, etc. don't matter when you're unable to execute your game plan that day and the other person is. That's what it really comes down to.
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